The Art of Gratitude
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In this episode the gang talks about the purpose of gratitude and how the practice of it started at Vidaproject during outdoor boot camp one summer.
Mo tells a sweet story about the significance of Teterboro Airport to him and how it reminds him of his pops and grandfather.
Rances talks about how practicing gratitude has gotten him through some tough times... especially now with his cars becoming a target for other vehicles to hit.
The guys discuss how people attach meaning to their emotions instead of just feeling them in the moment and moving forward.
Mo wins Jay's heart over by talking about how he's chosen to live life however he wants as long as he's happy and getting shit done.
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Transcript
00:00:00:04 - 00:00:26:27
Punchline Jay
All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of Mindset U. This is episode 67. My name's Jason We got... Oh, sorry. Jason Moreno. Because my name's fucking. And apparently we got Moisés Santos. We got Rances because Rances apparently is the most unique name in the fucking world. Sorry. I’m a little Hyped up on mountain dew? I'm not just a lot of water these days.
00:00:29:13 - 00:01:04:02
Punchline Jay
Today's episode, we're going to talk about gratitude. I think we've all could use a little gratitude in our lives. More. You know, some more than others. Looking down at the beautiful man with the genie fucking goatee. Um, you know, it's been a it's been a rough few weeks, and I think it'll help people to understand the benefits of gratitude, because you guys are the ones who kind of not introduce gratitude, but make me start practicing gratitude as a daily thing.
00:01:04:18 - 00:01:09:19
Punchline Jay
And I want to know why you guys started implementing that VidaProject to begin with.
00:01:10:08 - 00:01:12:18
Moody Mo
Because when you got bad juju like Rances
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Punchline Jay
Right?
00:01:13:26 - 00:01:15:25
Moody Mo
You got to have Gratitude for something
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Punchline Jay
Talk about the wheelchair. One more time Rances
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Robot Rances
to answer your question. The gratitude practice started when we started doing bootcamps. It was actually my wife Paola, when she used to help coach the classes. So one day she was like, I want to do something. I want to attend the classes. Like, I want everyone to talk about you know, what they're grateful for. And then from there it became a thing.
00:01:43:07 - 00:01:59:07
Robot Rances
And like, at first people were like, Oh, that's weird, you know? And then after a while, people would be like, Isn't it gratitude time? Where did your time? Where are we ending? Without saying gratitude? And then it became like, it's part of the culture. It's part of the yeah. What VidaProject brings.
00:02:00:08 - 00:02:03:17
Punchline Jay
Like that so that it's not continuous.
00:02:04:14 - 00:02:16:07
Moody Mo
I would say later on we found out all the science behind it and what they kind of proved or the back end behind why it's so powerful and it has to do with dopamine.
00:02:17:02 - 00:02:32:09
Punchline Jay
Really. Yeah. So I guess like. So what, what does it do? I guess like guys who are into dopamine stuff like I get that but like explain it. So people are like, why, why, how it affects your dopamine you ever.
00:02:33:14 - 00:03:02:09
Moody Mo
So I'm going to connect this, but it's going to seem like it's off topic for a second. So something really interesting has happened to me the past two days. So, you know, Teterboro Airport and off of route 46, I was driving by there, I drove by there yesterday and I drove by there today and it was weird because like I saw the planes go up and it was like a place where my father and I were before I became the teterboro airport that it is now.
00:03:02:10 - 00:03:26:21
Moody Mo
My dad would take me there when I was little and we would go and just watch planes and it was like it was cool because every single, like every night, once a week he would go and he's just we'd see the planes, see the planes take off. And it was something that my father expressed to me about my grandfather because my grandfather was a pilot and my grandfather lived in Florida and I was drove by there today for some reason.
00:03:26:21 - 00:03:31:19
Moody Mo
And I just started crying. It was crazy. It wasn't like a bad.
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Moody Mo
Cry.
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Moody Mo
Was just like I kind of felt my grandfather and like, connected to my father in those moments. And then it happened to me again this morning when I went past it. So I think it does have something to do with like maybe that was my version of expressing gratitude and like thinking about my grandfather. But I thought about the physiology of like what happened.
00:03:53:23 - 00:04:14:25
Moody Mo
It was like I got goosebumps and it felt like almost like this kind of surreal moment. And it was like something connected beyond me. And I'm that I don't consider myself to be super spiritual, but I consider there's, like, something greater. And I think that's what happens when you start to express gratitude. It's like you see these positive things happen.
00:04:14:25 - 00:04:22:19
Moody Mo
And I think there is a biology to it and a chemical reaction that actually occurs in the body when you do practice these things.
00:04:23:24 - 00:04:34:25
Punchline Jay
I think that's true, too. And that's a that's a great story. I like that. I like I never knew that, to be honest with you. And I've known you for fucking forever that with that connection, that's, that's actually really sweet.
00:04:36:04 - 00:05:07:21
Robot Rances
I wanted to add something to that. Before you go on, Anthony, because like with what Moises is saying in terms of like there is a change in in your body and your reaction and everything, but the practice of gratitude is really the practice of focus, right? You start focusing on certain things and it's like when you you know, you ever a guy in a car crying, you got a brand new car and you're like, Oh, I love this car is great.
00:05:07:21 - 00:05:25:29
Robot Rances
And then all of a sudden you start seeing it all over the road, right? It's that idea of bringing that awareness. It's like, Oh my God, I'm grateful for this small thing, right? Sometimes when you begin gratitude practice, it's like trying to find, what the hell am I greatful for? I’m not Grateful for anything. And then you know, you find something begrudgingly.
00:05:26:15 - 00:05:47:23
Robot Rances
And then by doing that, you kind of start an avalanche, you start focusing and noticing. And throughout the day you're like, Oh, wow, this is amazing. Oh. And it starts to change what you're looking for in the world. Right? Changing what you're looking for in the world. You start to become literally happier in your life, in your existence, in all your perspectives.
00:05:48:12 - 00:06:15:17
Moody Mo
That that particular system is called the reticular activation system. So if you were to go and it's a part of the brain and it's a mechanism on how we identify patterns. So if I told you right now, go find a heart somewhere and I say, don't start to, you find a heart or the shape of a heart anyway, you'll work your entire day until you find it.
00:06:15:17 - 00:06:28:29
Moody Mo
Find a heart and you can go throughout the entire day looking for that. And that's how gratitude works and just kind of summarizing what Rances said and the science part, it's that's what it is, the reticular activation system.
00:06:29:19 - 00:06:51:08
Robot Rances
And sometimes just asking, just asking the question, what am I grateful for? Starts to set that reticular activation system, start looking for those signs for those things. So sometimes you don't even have to come to the conclusion. Just asking the question. Just like when Moises asked the question, try to find the heart and you start looking around the room just asking the question, What am I grateful for?
00:06:51:13 - 00:06:54:12
Robot Rances
Literally start to make you are looking at.
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Moody Mo
So I think that I think what it does is it makes you take an action like apply the idea of positivity or positive thinking. You know, that, that you're looking for that cause it's connected to dopamine. So once you take an action, you feel like you're one step closer to that thing. So the same thing works that like the idea of manifestation manifestations always seen as this like woo woo thing, but there's actual science to it which is goes back to the reticular activation system.
00:07:23:17 - 00:07:42:13
Moody Mo
The moment you start obsessing about getting something that you're looking for, you're going to take an action to try to make it happen. So every single time that you like. That's why The Secret is a book, right, that everybody talks about, like the Power Secret and they say like put the if you want this car, put it in front of you.
00:07:42:13 - 00:08:01:24
Moody Mo
Look at it every day. I mean, the reason that works is not because you're looking at a fucking car the entire time. The reason it works is because you're thinking about it and then you're taking some small action that you think may lead to it or you don't believe leads to it. It could be either or, but you're doing something to get closer to that thing.
00:08:02:13 - 00:08:20:08
Moody Mo
And when you do that with gratitude, you can do the same thing with everything in your life. Instead of looking at the negative things that happen to you, you're going to be like, Hey, you know, something positive can come out of this thing. Like, I remember the time Rances and I went to that public speaking event and we almost got hit by this big ass truck coming out of a parking lot.
00:08:20:26 - 00:08:35:22
Moody Mo
I'm like, God, I would have sucked and Rances is Like, Why? And now I see Rances has gone through this accident and I'm like, This fucker got to get something positive out of it because he told me that he had something positive that came out of it.
00:08:35:22 - 00:08:39:09
Punchline Jay
Rances what did you get positive out of your two incidents.
00:08:39:28 - 00:09:09:21
Robot Rances
So just to be specific on it, the the discussion was about the context of positive or negative and the idea is like it's have you heard that the Chinese proverb story about, you know, the man who he had two horses and or he had one horse and the horse ran away and everyone comes to him. The whole town comes to visit him and they're like, Oh, so, so sad about your horses.
00:09:09:21 - 00:09:23:26
Robot Rances
He's like, Is it it good or bad? I don't know. Maybe. And then the horse comes back with a bunch of wild horses and it's like, Oh, so great. The horse came back and the guy's like, Maybe. And then he's head.
00:09:23:26 - 00:09:24:27
Punchline Jay
For the entire village.
00:09:25:16 - 00:09:42:06
Robot Rances
His son training his son, trying to train two wild horses, falls and breaks his legs. And the village goes, Oh, it's so sad about your son. And he's like, Maybe. And then the military comes through to take his son for for war, but they can't because he's injured. And it's like, it's so great that your son was injured.
00:09:42:11 - 00:09:47:18
Robot Rances
It's like maybe like everything is just like that. Is that stays that judgment.
00:09:48:02 - 00:09:54:02
Punchline Jay
That guy sounds like a fucking hang.He sounds like a good time.
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Robot Rances
So. So, like, is that perspective? Is that is the idea of wanting to attach a positive or a negative? It's just the thing that it is what it is. It's the labor that you place in. So going to it to to my thing is like all the the situation the car accident to begin with and just yesterday my car was hit again in a parking lot.
00:10:18:05 - 00:10:18:27
Punchline Jay
Yeah, it was parked.
00:10:19:06 - 00:10:30:22
Robot Rances
It was parked. I was having breakfast and someone comes in to me like anyone have red Kia and I go outside and see he hit my car, brand new car that I got to have the tags on it.
00:10:31:19 - 00:10:35:27
Moody Mo
The last two cars didn't have the tags on it. Yeah, that's fucking wild, bruh.
00:10:36:16 - 00:10:42:19
Robot Rances
The cop shows up and she looks at the plate and she goes, It's a new car.
00:10:42:19 - 00:10:47:08
Punchline Jay
Yeah. You'd like to see the other one.
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Moody Mo
So I like the new car.
00:10:49:28 - 00:11:02:03
Robot Rances
For my new car? Yeah. Like my reaction. My reaction to all of that. It's like, you guys don't see me bitching and moaning about it is like, yeah, I'm dealing with the shit, but whatever it is what it is.
00:11:03:18 - 00:11:14:17
Moody Mo
But can we go into that? Like, are you feeling like what we would label or what people would label? Like negative emotions, anxiety, kind of frustration, anger.
00:11:15:09 - 00:11:19:14
Punchline Jay
So you have women drivers because going for the.
00:11:19:14 - 00:11:43:09
Robot Rances
Hard way because I think that's a that's a great question because like my response to that I'm talking about and that you see in everything is already gone through the gantlet right for my internal world how it looks like is like at that moment when that lady comes in while I'm ordering breakfast, scream out anyone own a red Kia.
00:11:44:09 - 00:11:47:21
Robot Rances
I'm just like, What the fuck? Come on, seriously?
00:11:47:21 - 00:11:48:00
Punchline Jay
Like.
00:11:48:09 - 00:11:51:29
Robot Rances
Where's the where's the joke? You know?
00:11:51:29 - 00:11:53:12
Punchline Jay
So they out like surprise.
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Robot Rances
So like, in that moment I get up, you know, I'm fully calm, but I'm just like, Oh, what the fuck? Like, why? You know, that's what's going on inside me. And the moment that I start to a process that I start to look at it and I go outside, I see the car, the and I go again talking about the whole gratitude thing.
00:12:13:16 - 00:12:33:06
Robot Rances
I go, okay, it's drivable. My trunk opens, my door opens, it's still functional. I can do whatever I need to do with the car. Great. Oh, I also have full coverage, so no problem. I'll get this taken care of. And then it becomes to that point, I'm like, it's nothing right after that process. But for sure there's like this.
00:12:33:06 - 00:12:36:27
Robot Rances
You're like, why me like that? That that whole concept.
00:12:37:02 - 00:12:40:08
Punchline Jay
Yeah. Did you go. Have you finished eating breakfast?
00:12:40:08 - 00:12:49:02
Robot Rances
They actually. Well, the woman felt so bad that she went ran inside and and paid for our whole breakfast for the whole table.
00:12:49:09 - 00:12:51:28
Punchline Jay
That's for you. See, that's a stand up lady. I mean.
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Robot Rances
She the fact that she came in to tell me she could have driven away.
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Moody Mo
She could’ve ran away.
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Robot Rances
Yeah, yeah. So she came in. So, like, I'm also grateful for that. I was like, wow, I appreciate your honesty, you know? So like, yeah, it's, it's again, it goes into that, that concept of what are you looking for? And, and she, she comes out and she had two people in the car with her. They were on the way to their son's graduation.
00:13:17:12 - 00:13:43:15
Robot Rances
And the people come up to me and she's she's been freaking out and people call it to me, thank you so much for being so calm and so on. So I'm like, Well, what else? What else could you be about to say? No, people would be upset. Like before were like like the whole thing is like, you know, when you're, when you're angry and let's say spiteful or whatever, like those are emotions that are inside you that that that are eating up you.
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Robot Rances
Right? Like I see videos of people flipping out and breaking cash registers nowadays because they got their order wrong. And it's like what the only thing that's doing is, is having people judge you, right, judge your your, your whole race. Right. That's another aspect. And they're also going to have that person that went through that is also going to have to now deal with the consequences of going to jail and whatever.
00:14:16:13 - 00:14:17:03
Robot Rances
Just because.
00:14:17:03 - 00:14:22:02
Punchline Jay
Of. Yeah, because they're making it much worse and it has to be kind of thing.
00:14:22:16 - 00:14:39:25
Robot Rances
Yeah. So it's like the fact that for me is like the fact that I have a car to be hit. I have this machine, this, this giant machine, powerful, cutting edge technology that I used to fucking go get coffee.
00:14:40:08 - 00:14:40:18
Punchline Jay
Like.
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Robot Rances
Like, that's amazing. I have that.
00:14:44:18 - 00:14:45:11
Moody Mo
So I.
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Punchline Jay
Think.
00:14:46:18 - 00:15:02:08
Moody Mo
I think that requires of level of training of going into shape through your life to be able to get to that point because that can see how someone can come out and be like, Yo, my new car is fucked up. Even if I get it fixed, I'm always going to know that it got fucked up.
00:15:03:00 - 00:15:06:21
Punchline Jay
It's no longer new. It's not like people hear it.
00:15:07:14 - 00:15:08:29
Moody Mo
That's but that's how people thing.
00:15:08:29 - 00:15:24:23
Robot Rances
How I can share a story about when when I went and like this is this I think this is a time where it really shifted for me and it was I was going through a series of unfortunate events similar to now.
00:15:25:11 - 00:15:28:01
Punchline Jay
Right now. So it's like a reoccurring pattern for you.
00:15:28:17 - 00:15:31:22
Robot Rances
Yeah, it's I think it's about every ten years, which is like.
00:15:32:17 - 00:15:36:28
Punchline Jay
To be fully invested in your life in this fucked up time.
00:15:38:16 - 00:15:45:14
Robot Rances
For me, the way I see is like the law of averages. Like my life goes so fucking great that, you know, things need to balance themselves out for a little.
00:15:45:25 - 00:15:46:24
Punchline Jay
Yeah, but the way that it.
00:15:46:24 - 00:16:03:23
Moody Mo
Goes for rent is, is wild because it's like, great for, like, ten years, and then all of a sudden it's like just a bunch of shit back to back in, like, six months. For me, it's like, here's, you know what? Here's your season. You go through it in December through February, and here's a bunch of back to back and see it's.
00:16:04:01 - 00:16:28:16
Robot Rances
So I was going through, through all of these like series of unfortunate events and this like the way like I tell the story of reminds me of the pursuit of happiness, the movie Will Smith, where like, you know, one thing starts to go positive and then everything crashes down. Like, for example, he sold one of the machines in the movie that he's trying to sell and he has like $600 in his account for the first time.
00:16:28:16 - 00:16:30:05
Robot Rances
And then the bank takes it all out and the.
00:16:30:05 - 00:16:31:12
Moody Mo
IRS takes it all the.
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Robot Rances
IRS, right? Yeah. So for me, it was literally those experiences that I was going through that like it was my, my wife had deposited $3,000 into the account that wasn't even ours. It was for her mom, so we can cash it for her. And the creditors yanked it from our account. This is when we were in the middle of losing our our house or apartment in Jersey City.
00:17:03:10 - 00:17:19:01
Robot Rances
I had been in an accident on my I had purchased my my brand new Mini Cooper a few months before. And literally three weeks into having it, I got T-boned in Pal Park where you just can't.
00:17:19:01 - 00:17:19:28
Moody Mo
Have new cars.
00:17:20:18 - 00:17:21:07
Robot Rances
Like you.
00:17:21:07 - 00:17:22:27
Moody Mo
You're not allowed to even buy new cars. Like you need to get used cars
00:17:23:02 - 00:17:35:21
Robot Rances
And then and then all these things start. So we lost, we lost the house, we did the car thing. And I was like, Yo.
00:17:36:06 - 00:18:00:27
Robot Rances
What the hell Like, all these things just kept happening. And then we had another, like a cheap car more. You may remember this one I was driving to work, designed the same season, I was driving to work. And this Paolo's car, I was borrowing because the car was was in the shop and I hit the brakes and this thing just slides, slides like fucking 50 feet and I'm just like, what the fuck?
00:18:00:27 - 00:18:04:04
Robot Rances
And I hit the car in front
00:18:04:04 - 00:18:10:08
Punchline Jay
So maybe you're just meant to walk, so you're just a walker.
00:18:10:22 - 00:18:42:10
Robot Rances
So then, like, I have, like, all these things going wrong. And I remember, like, this moment very clear. I was sitting on the steps of like the basement of my parents house where we had to move in after my son was born. And like starting a family and everything going backwards, right? So all the clouds and I opened up my phone and I was entering on a list that I had created, like all the shit that was going wrong, right?
00:18:42:10 - 00:19:00:10
Robot Rances
And this was like the eighth thing that I was entering. Like, what the fuck? It was when the money was pulled from the bank was like another thing. And I write it and look at the whole list and I have all this fucking anxiety and pains coming looking at this list. And I'm like, Wait a minute. This moment was.
00:19:00:10 - 00:19:22:19
Robot Rances
And it just made sense. It clicked because like, why am I writing this down? Why am I focusing on these things and looking them over just to sit here and be like, Oh, poor you, poor me, I'm everything is so mean. And I was like, What the fuck? And I hit the little, you know, menu button and click delete.
00:19:22:25 - 00:19:46:04
Robot Rances
And it was like this symbolic thing of like I deleted that note And it's like I deleted and removed all that attachment to those things. Yeah. And honestly, from there, like things just started getting better like this. The part about that, that car, the car accident said, oh my, remember the guy hit someone from behind and then I ended up selling her sessions.
00:19:46:04 - 00:20:06:02
Robot Rances
So I made the money plus more back. Oh, and then just things just started rolling from there. I just started being solution oriented. I started seeing, oh, how, what can I make of this? What can I do with this and that focused attention? Taking my my mind from focusing on the negative to focusing on the on the possible.
00:20:06:02 - 00:20:08:29
Robot Rances
This just shifted my life immediately.
00:20:09:08 - 00:20:30:14
Punchline Jay
Yeah, that makes it's like entrepreneurs. I feel like entrepreneurs have to practice gratitude because like you take a lot of losses when you're running your own shit, it's a lot more losses. And I feel victories in the victories are sweet, but like, Man, is it a fucking uphill fucking thing? And if you're not, if you're not like, Oh man,
00:20:30:28 - 00:20:32:08
Moody Mo
Up hill? It’s a fucking cliff my bro, You’re, you’re scaling a wall my man!
00:20:32:08 - 00:20:53:21
Punchline Jay
Yeah, you know, but. But you have no choice but to go. We got to fucking do it. We're going to scale this fucking wall, right? And you just go about it because, you know, looking back on all the shitty things like you said it, it does not help. I feel like it keeps you.
00:20:53:21 - 00:21:06:07
Punchline Jay
It keeps you stagnant. Sometimes I think when people hold on to all that bad shit that happened to them, that since they hold on, they focus on it so much that they get stuck in that spot. It's really hard to move past it.
00:21:06:25 - 00:21:30:13
Moody Mo
Well, I think I think where people get stuck because I was thinking about this the other day and I think where people get stuck is not necessarily the emotions, it's the meaning that they attach to the thing. Because I still feel sometimes myself like even with the entrepreneurship, you brought that thing up with entrepreneurship. I feel anxious, I feel nervous, I feel unclear.
00:21:30:13 - 00:21:58:06
Moody Mo
I feel all of these things. I feel the judgment of myself like I should be here and all these things. But what's interesting is I feel those emotions. But what's interesting is like, I don't really attach meaning to it anymore. Like it doesn't mean something to me. And I think what Rances just kind of explained with his stories was that, yeah, he goes through these emotions and we call him Mr. Robot because he never really expresses these emotions.
00:21:58:06 - 00:22:04:12
Moody Mo
And a lot of people who are close to Rances, you know, say the same thing like he doesn't show anything.
00:22:04:12 - 00:22:23:08
Moody Mo
But it's like he does go through these things and things. What he doesn't do is that he doesn't attach meaning. So therefore to express it would mean nothing because there is no meaning, right? It's like. It's like writing a sentence that wouldn't make sense to me. Rances is just goning through shit and we all go through shit.
00:22:23:08 - 00:22:37:15
Moody Mo
But when you take that victim role, you just attach a meaning to something. And I think that's where the big shift is because like, Oh, I kind of understand what Rances does. It's like he doesn't he lets himself go through all this emotionally, doesn't attach anything to it.
00:22:39:17 - 00:22:40:06
Moody Mo
Is that accurate?
00:22:40:28 - 00:23:02:16
Robot Rances
Yeah, I would say so because he's like, I'm not that. The key thing is like, I never suppress emotion. And I think that that's where it gets misunderstood. Its like All you Rances you don't cry. You have to let yourself crys like I'm not not letting myself cry. I'm not not letting myself be sad. I'm not not letting myself be angry.
00:23:03:01 - 00:23:03:14
Punchline Jay
You know.
00:23:04:03 - 00:23:10:23
Robot Rances
I'm being all those things is just I let them be and then I let them go.
00:23:10:23 - 00:23:17:02
Punchline Jay
Do your eyes even get. Do your eyes even get watery?
00:23:17:25 - 00:23:36:21
Robot Rances
I don’t know. I’ve tried to. So this going to sound weird, but there's been moments where I feel really, like, emotional. Yeah. And I'm like, Am I crying? I get that thought. I'm crying. And I open up my camera to look at my face and I can't tell. But then I'm like, I can't help. Maybe because I started thinking about am my crying. And then I took myself out of the moment.
00:23:37:07 - 00:24:00:29
Punchline Jay
To self aware of the situation. So for me, I kind of have a dove, which is funny. I'm like my dad now. My dad, you all know my dad and it's the funniest thing in the world to be. You cried watching Glee today that that's what got to you. He's like for his son's gay. It just hits close to home.
00:24:00:29 - 00:24:18:10
Punchline Jay
I'm like, Ooh, he does. It's also home to me because he use to be married. What are you talking about? You said, I don't know. She has a penis or not.
00:24:18:10 - 00:24:19:03
Moody Mo
Your dad.
00:24:19:06 - 00:24:24:25
Punchline Jay
Does. But I know you don't. Babe, I love you too. Don't worry about you. Didn't hear me this time.
00:24:25:27 - 00:24:27:18
Moody Mo
Your dad's definitely going to cry your wedding.
00:24:28:08 - 00:24:28:26
Punchline Jay
Oh, dude.
00:24:29:04 - 00:24:30:19
Moody Mo
He's going to be hurting.
00:24:30:19 - 00:24:54:16
Punchline Jay
You cried to me the day when he told me he love me. Oh, stop. What's wrong with you? Who's dying? He gets me worried when he does that shit. Because most of the time I'm like, I love you, Daddy. I'm like, that's. That's how I know he loves me. He goes, We started off like, What's your okay? Where's the doctor?
00:24:54:16 - 00:25:04:07
Punchline Jay
Say, say everything's fine. what the fucks up, you know? So I'm waiting for somebody to send me some bad news this week, but, yeah, no, I got it.
00:25:04:18 - 00:25:18:28
Robot Rances
You know what I find who I like. I find that a lot of my friends are very, like, emotional in that sense of crying like. Like Mo Mo cies a lot, Oscar Cries a lot...
00:25:18:28 - 00:25:23:25
Moody Mo
I used to cry a lot, i dont cry that much anymore.
00:25:24:13 - 00:25:25:02
Punchline Jay
That was the.
00:25:25:02 - 00:25:27:07
Moody Mo
Last time you said, when's the last time you saw me cry.
00:25:27:07 - 00:25:29:07
Punchline Jay
you just dont cry in public that much.
00:25:29:13 - 00:25:30:28
Moody Mo
Yeah, I don't cry in public anymore.
00:25:31:01 - 00:25:36:00
Punchline Jay
Yeah, that's fair. I don't cry in public either anymore. Well, what do you mean? .
00:25:36:00 - 00:25:36:28
Robot Rances
What do you Consider crying?
00:25:38:03 - 00:25:47:29
Moody Mo
Like? Well, I mean, I. I think I teared up. They gave it to me. That, that. Yeah. No, that's not crying to me. Crying. Okay, all out, like. Yeah, like ugly face.
00:25:48:08 - 00:25:50:03
Punchline Jay
So yeah, I feel like.
00:25:50:15 - 00:25:52:00
Robot Rances
Yeah, like your best conversation.
00:25:52:06 - 00:25:52:17
Punchline Jay
Yeah.
00:25:53:09 - 00:25:58:25
Robot Rances
Last conversation we had. Like, you teared up and I mean, to me, that's like, okay, you're crying.
00:25:59:08 - 00:26:09:15
Punchline Jay
But that's because you can't cry. So you go. Any time that there's emotion in your eyes, you're like, Oh, that's crying Oh,you fucking robot, fuck
00:26:09:15 - 00:26:11:25
Moody Mo
That's true. You get a sniffle. He's like, Oh, you're crying.
00:26:12:10 - 00:26:14:22
Punchline Jay
You're crying, he's crying. Why are you so emotional right now? I have.
00:26:14:22 - 00:26:38:20
Robot Rances
Allergies. No, I'm not like that. I don't dismiss issues, emotions. I had I always make sure that that because it's funny story about that is one of the other coaches one time was with me and I was talking to a client who got emotional about a subject. She was talking and I looked over at him and he didn't know what to do with himself.
00:26:39:02 - 00:26:51:00
Robot Rances
She started crying and he's like, it's like like someone was trapped in a jail cell and ready to die. Like, I was like, ####. You want to step out?
00:26:51:00 - 00:26:52:05
Punchline Jay
I was going to ask if it was ####.
00:26:52:05 - 00:26:55:27
Moody Mo
You called em out!
00:26:58:26 - 00:27:01:21
Robot Rances
Is where I check if he watches. Yeah. You watch our podcast.
00:27:01:21 - 00:27:03:00
Robot Rances
Yeah, yeah, I watch your show. Yeah.
00:27:03:08 - 00:27:03:29
Moody Mo
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:03:29 - 00:27:06:12
Robot Rances
What did i say about you?
00:27:06:12 - 00:27:19:06
Punchline Jay
thats a fucking handsom man. Um, so we got about, like, 7 minutes left. I'm not good at math, but it's 38. I don't know.
00:27:19:26 - 00:27:23:12
Robot Rances
So what's why Do do people do.
00:27:23:12 - 00:27:25:20
Punchline Jay
I knew that would make Mo laugh
00:27:25:26 - 00:27:29:05
Robot Rances
Why do we need to practice gratitude? Why should anyone practice gratitude?
00:27:29:10 - 00:27:31:09
Moody Mo
I don't like the idea that we're saying we need to.
00:27:32:03 - 00:27:33:29
Robot Rances
Okay,
00:27:33:29 - 00:27:35:09
Punchline Jay
why you should? You dont need to do anything
00:27:35:09 - 00:27:39:09
Moody Mo
I dont even like that, i dont Need to do shit
00:27:39:09 - 00:27:40:10
Moody Mo
Me, it's just like whatever.
00:27:40:10 - 00:27:43:24
Moody Mo
Works for you. If your life is shit, then you should maybe.
00:27:43:24 - 00:27:45:22
Punchline Jay
Think about why you're.
00:27:45:22 - 00:27:48:29
Moody Mo
Like, how you can make it better. Not shit, and maybe gratitude.
00:27:48:29 - 00:27:52:15
Moody Mo
Will work for you but gratitude Doesn't work for everybody.
00:27:52:15 - 00:28:01:09
Punchline Jay
Okay, so how about this? The reasons why gratitude could be helpful is that. Is that better for you? Fucking Moody Mo.
00:28:01:09 - 00:28:30:08
Robot Rances
No. You know, I agree with Moises in terms of that because the whole idea of of a prescription. Right. Yeah. Do this and then you you'll get this already comes with this expectation and it's not about the expectation is about the the intention. Right. So what are you, were you intending to do because you can practice gratitude for three months with the intention to disprove gratitude will help you and you'll be successful at that, you know what I'm saying?
00:28:30:18 - 00:28:41:18
Robot Rances
So it's like these are all tools you can you can manage to to use them based off of your perspective and you can learn to wield them where you can. Now it's up to you.
00:28:41:18 - 00:29:01:15
Punchline Jay
Yeah. So I think for me it's helpful when I get anxious and I'm like harping on something, you know, that it's I guess important. But in the grand scheme of things, I'm like, All right, well, you know, I got the love of my life. She's healthy, my animals are healthy, my parents are healthy. You know, the people I love are relatively healthy.
00:29:01:15 - 00:29:21:25
Punchline Jay
Like I'm thankful for all that's. So why am I harping on this so much kind of thing? I think it helps. That's how gratitude helps me. It helps me put things into perspective. I don't know if that works for other people, but for somebody like me who is very cynical, that helped change that a little bit. Mm hmm.
00:29:22:06 - 00:29:22:20
Punchline Jay
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:23:19 - 00:29:46:26
Moody Mo
I agree. Yeah, I agree with that, too. I think I think gratitude is just a tool. And I think all of these things are tools. And the reason that I brought that up is because there's there's just a whole bunch of coaches and people on social media saying what you should do and what you shouldn't do. And I know for me as an entrepreneur, I go through like, Oh, I'm supposed to have this fucking routine and I'm fucking practice gratitude.
00:29:46:26 - 00:30:01:09
Moody Mo
And I got to meditate and I got to look directly into the sun for fucking 10 minutes before I start my day. And it's, I fucking hate it. It causes more anxiety. And I'm just like, why don't I just do whatever the fuck I want that makes me happy. And that's really it.
00:30:01:25 - 00:30:07:06
Moody Mo
And if it's not working right there. If it's not working, then do something else. Right?
00:30:07:06 - 00:30:08:00
Punchline Jay
Jerk off
00:30:08:15 - 00:30:16:09
Moody Mo
and then maybe it is It could be that 10 minutes. It should be doing it every single day. But if it Works for you,
00:30:16:09 - 00:30:18:09
Punchline Jay
you judging people now.
00:30:19:06 - 00:30:22:25
Moody Mo
Is I mean, I don't know. I just feel like you'd be tired all the time.
00:30:24:02 - 00:30:26:19
Punchline Jay
tired... We're adults. Just tired all the time anyway.
00:30:27:15 - 00:30:56:00
Robot Rances
You know, to before it just goes off the rails. Yeah. The key factor about, like, all of that, all these tools, any tools we talking about gratitude today, but any tool it is about that perspective, shifting perspective. It's the way you view things like the Mo you were talking about like, oh, you're supposed to do this and you're supposed to do that and you should just have this morning routine and so on and so fourth.
00:30:57:18 - 00:31:20:15
Robot Rances
Even all of that is like it's just perspective. It's just adjusting your perspective because a lot of times why those things end up causing anxiety is because your perspective is like, Oh, in order to be successful, in order to be this, I should be doing these things right is like, No, I am what I am. There's a quote.
00:31:20:28 - 00:31:22:16
Punchline Jay
Popeye, I am what I am.
00:31:22:16 - 00:31:25:16
Robot Rances
Yeah, yeah. What's the full quote? You know, I am.
00:31:25:16 - 00:31:26:21
Punchline Jay
What I am. And that's all I can be.
00:31:27:00 - 00:31:30:24
Robot Rances
Yes, precisely. Yes. That's fire right there, Popeye.
00:31:31:07 - 00:31:31:29
Punchline Jay
Popeye is the man.
00:31:32:21 - 00:31:33:13
Robot Rances
Sailor man.
00:31:35:00 - 00:31:40:23
Punchline Jay
wait time out. Did you know that the spinach was really a metaphor for Meth
00:31:40:23 - 00:31:41:19
Robot Rances
Really?
00:31:41:19 - 00:31:42:19
Punchline Jay
No, I just made that up.
00:31:42:21 - 00:31:46:07
Moody Mo
Oh, fuck, asshole.
00:31:46:07 - 00:32:01:06
Robot Rances
Not meth, what was it? The. The railroad, the steroids? No, that that the Chinese. That they used to build the railroad, they had them on heroin. Oh yeah.
00:32:01:23 - 00:32:05:02
Punchline Jay
Well, no, actually heroin. Would it make you very productive?
00:32:05:02 - 00:32:06:06
Moody Mo
Heroin is a downer.
00:32:06:19 - 00:32:11:17
Punchline Jay
No, you're thinking of. You're thinking of. No, you're thinking of something else. You think of opium speed.
00:32:11:17 - 00:32:12:17
Robot Rances
Opium? Yes.
00:32:12:18 - 00:32:33:00
Punchline Jay
Opium. Opium dens. Yes. That was where the whole phrase came from back in the early twenties. Please put your pajamas on. I thought the headphones were going to fix that buddy with your pills. And this is why he don't fucking have Google in your house for everything. All right, well, just.
00:32:33:00 - 00:32:58:23
Moody Mo
To kind of like, recap bird grants, as you're saying, because we went off the rails a little bit. Still listening to Google. I really think because we're Mindset U. Right. So what is it that this podcast actually provides in terms of value? And I think it's at it's perspective. It's there are all these tools that exist and these tools are not new.
00:32:58:23 - 00:33:19:09
Moody Mo
They've existed for thousands of years is like now we're finding some signs and we can sit here and talk about the science of dopamine and all the shit that happen. But in reality it's just what you're attaching, the meaning that you're attaching to whatever it is that you're experiencing. And if you just attach the meaning and you change your perspective, which is a lot, it's not easy, it's fucking hard.
00:33:20:22 - 00:33:28:04
Moody Mo
And there are some tools that you can do, like practice gratitude to change your perspective on something, and that's how you change your fucking life. Little by little.
00:33:28:28 - 00:33:32:21
Punchline Jay
You're like a fucking poet today. Jesus Christ. I like this.
00:33:33:10 - 00:33:37:24
Moody Mo
Yeah, man. I don't know, I guess, is the thing about airport. I mean.
00:33:38:19 - 00:33:41:27
Punchline Jay
Do you really think like. Like in a good way? I like this.
00:33:42:07 - 00:34:05:03
Robot Rances
Yeah, I agree with Jay, because, like, Mo is very this is one of his top skills. He takes concepts and summarizes them very well. Today, you're expressing it with this thing careing like careing underlining of it, which is. Yeah. Is adding a little bit of extra flavor to it.
00:34:05:08 - 00:34:11:09
Punchline Jay
Yeah. I think before every podcast you need to drive by that fucking airport and just look at it for a second, come back.
00:34:11:24 - 00:34:28:24
Moody Mo
You know what it is? Is that there's, there's a lot of things. So the way Rances approaches his life, I've learned a lot and valued a lot of the things from what Rances does like listening to the books and turning up the speed and fucking just you go in your car and you don't listen to music ever.
00:34:28:28 - 00:34:52:19
Moody Mo
You just fucking listen to people talking really fast the entire time. And I found a lot of value in that and that's all I got, you know, reading the books and getting more information and then just reading, I was like, Yo, I'm tired of this bullshit. Like, I'm done. I just want to fucking listen to music and I fucking do whatever I want and I won't start my day with a fucking stupid morning routine.
00:34:52:19 - 00:35:07:06
Moody Mo
I'll just get right to work, you know? And I was just like, as long as I'm moving forward and I'm happy with my life, it doesn't fucking matter. And then when it's unhappy, it's fucking change. It. It's, it, it, it does change. It doesn't have to be this consistent thing.
00:35:07:22 - 00:35:14:26
Punchline Jay
Turn a slow clap for this guy right here. This Welcome to the dark side, baby the wheels fucking fall.
00:35:14:26 - 00:35:17:08
Robot Rances
Off now the dark side, though. It's the light side.
00:35:17:16 - 00:35:19:06
Punchline Jay
I know, but it's. It's something I.
00:35:19:06 - 00:35:21:24
Moody Mo
Like the way that I'm saying it that resonates with Jay.
00:35:21:24 - 00:35:26:05
Punchline Jay
Yeah. I mean, can you do what I, what guys I like. Fuck yeah.
00:35:26:21 - 00:35:44:02
Robot Rances
Yeah. Because like, like the same. No, like, I appreciate you too, Mo, because I know that was. I love you under that. So I love you too. So, like, for me, like, I do those things because I enjoy doing that.
00:35:45:27 - 00:35:55:15
Punchline Jay
So it's like you're a robot, so it makes sense that you would like to listen to things sped up. So much since i dont need Music.
00:35:55:15 - 00:35:56:21
Robot Rances
I enjoy learning, man.
00:35:57:00 - 00:36:07:04
Punchline Jay
You know, and I respect that. And that's what makes you you and that's why I love you and that's why I'm thankful for you. That's all. I'm grateful for both of you.
00:36:07:15 - 00:36:09:03
Robot Rances
All right. You want to send us off?
00:36:09:10 - 00:36:29:02
Punchline Jay
All right. So on that note, I hope you guys learn to never listen to us. Do what the fuck you want. And hopefully anything that we talk about might be helpful. This is another episode of Mindset U don't forget to follow us on anywhere you can find podcasts, look for the YouTube page, go to VidaProject.com
00:36:29:02 - 00:36:53:28
Punchline Jay
There'll be a bunch of great stuff happening in the near future, um, especially with the Bite By Bite program and any other thing that you can think of, you can find it there. I love you guys. I'm thankful for the both of you know, you fucking sexy bitch. You fucking killed it today. Oh, man, if you ever want to gay, I'm ready to leave Ashley for you.
00:36:53:28 - 00:36:58:14
Moody Mo
I probably wouldn't know how to do any of the things that you want to get done to you.
00:36:58:23 - 00:37:04:23
Punchline Jay
It's okay. It's okay. It's all right. I'm out. It's more I'm not going to make now. I'm not the.
00:37:04:23 - 00:37:06:07
Moody Mo
One that's going to make you turn gay.
00:37:06:07 - 00:37:19:22
Punchline Jay
So it's more of a mental thing right now. I just want to climb you a fucking smart tree you are. We can go sit at Teterboro Airport, go stair airplanes together, holding each. You know that we.
00:37:20:14 - 00:37:23:19
Moody Mo
It sucks because they don't allow you to see it no more, you know?
00:37:23:19 - 00:37:34:01
Punchline Jay
Yeah. 911 kind of doing that. Yeah. I'm too proud to be next to you for that. You could probably get away with it by yourself. But if I'm with you, we get arrested. Yeah, probably.
00:37:35:06 - 00:37:35:23
Robot Rances
I love you guys.
00:37:35:23 - 00:37:58:02
Punchline Jay
Before we go off tracks again. Thank you guys so much for listening. Thank you guys for an awesome podcast. Once again, follow us anywhere that you can follow podcast. Don't forget to subscribe. All the other fun stuff comment and give us some feedback. And that's about that's all I got. I piece my guys to.
00:37:58:03 - 00:38:14:08
Punchline Jay
See who it might sit you and I just want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart for tuning in and watching us every week since Mindset Use taking a different approach, we need your help coming up with new topics of stuff that you want to hear so that we can give you the best quality possible, the best content possible in general.
00:38:14:22 - 00:38:30:05
Punchline Jay
It's fun. Come on, help us out. Help us help you any way you can. Head over to VidaProject.com watch any of the old episodes and any of the new upcoming episodes are coming. You can also check us out on Instagram and YouTube and anywhere else you could possibly think of that you wants to be. Let us know.
00:38:30:05 - 00:38:34:10
Punchline Jay
We'll be there. All right. Thank you so much.