Debunking Fitness Myths
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In this episode of Mindset U, Jason, Rances, and Moises, delve into the world of fitness myths. Join the discussion as they shed light on popular practices like ice baths, cold exposure, and mental toughness. Discover the truth behind these trends and learn how they can impact your physical and mental well-being. Get ready to challenge your preconceptions and unlock the secrets to optimizing your fitness routine. Don't miss this informative and entertaining conversation!
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Transcript
00:00:00:10 - 00:00:15:09
Jason
Welcome, guys, to another episode of Mind U. This is episode I forgot. I believe it's 67 or 68 at this point. I don't know. But we're in the high sixties and I can't wait to get to 69. I think it's 69 yet because I know things like 77.
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Rances
Because 66 when you started with your joke about those one more six would have been great.
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Jason
You're right. No, no, no. But then the now that then the second one.
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Rances
Oh, that's right. The one.
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Jason
That's right. 68. So we're at 68. We're close to that. We're close to my other favorite number, 69. I can't wait. That's gonna be a special episode. That scene. We're going to talk about sex. Oh, I don't care what you guys say, that's going to be a sex episode today. Also, by the way, sorry, Jason Laredo. We got both of Santos.
00:00:45:02 - 00:00:51:11
Jason
We got Rances. We'll see his last name. I'll always every time I see you. Well, you know, we can't say his last name. He doesn't want.
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Rances
That. Today we're going to do the the the nicknames.
00:00:55:28 - 00:01:23:10
Jason
Oh, you want to do the nickname? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm Punchline J. We got Primo and we got fucking Mr. Roboto over here. Who fucking needs to go by the fucking structure of everything today we're talk about some fitness myths as an ordinary guy who looks on social media and says that a lot of fitness stuff on social media, a lot of people tell you to do certain fucking things.
00:01:23:10 - 00:01:42:23
Jason
And I mean, I don't think everything's bullshit, but I feel like a lot of things it's exaggerates a fucking cell something and there's a few things that I want to talk to you guys because you guys work in the fitness industry. You have worked in the fitness industry for quite some time, so let's jump into that. So first off, I want to talk about Ice Fast.
00:01:42:23 - 00:02:06:14
Jason
I know you guys have done that and redo mindset and stuff like that, but you hear people who like to do it every single day. Now, what's what? What the fuck's the point of freezing your balls off before you start the day? Like, I know they are like it Shocks the system and it's like, yeah, but like, it's one of the things you can do to shock your system and then Freeze your balls off.
00:02:07:13 - 00:02:08:21
Jason
Can somebody please explain it to me?
00:02:10:02 - 00:02:37:25
Rances
Well, on, I'll start off and then Mo You can jump in more. So one of the things it does and this is like the I think the key framework of what you're talking about, like we can talk about are like the benefits of these things. But then let's talk about like the intention as well. But cold exposure is known to have a big impact in terms of your immune system.
00:02:38:10 - 00:03:01:28
Rances
And that's one of the biggest aspects that your immune system, because you see the shock your system thing, it's more so that it hits you so hard where your immune system has to kick back on to in order to be able to regulate itself. Right. So anything that you do it that with that intention is like just like exercise.
00:03:01:28 - 00:03:26:18
Rances
You're pushing past your stress levels so that you can create a response of repair, response of bring yourself back to normal. The more you practice that lever, the more you practice pushing yourself to the very edge and coming back, the more fluid it becomes, the more adaptable you become as a person. So when you're talking about your nervous system from the immune response, that is one of the benefits of of the ice bath or any type of cold exposure.
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Rances
Mo you want to...
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Moises
I think that was great.
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Jason
I knew it. he said he was going to do it. And I didn't believe him.
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Moises
I was fucking great.
00:03:40:13 - 00:03:53:01
Jason
That’s My father, everybody. That's where I get this lovely sense of humor. He just looks like a oversize child. He looks like a fat little Mexican kid.
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Moises
That was great, that was epic man.
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Jason
That's.
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Moises
Good.
00:03:59:05 - 00:04:25:14
Continuing on picking off where Rances left off picking up where Rances left off. I think it depends again the intention. What are you looking to do? So before I was known for the Ice baths for athletes, more specifically, we would see these pro athletes going this bag that's like a really hard workout. And now they find out that it actually has negative impacts to strength and performance.
00:04:25:14 - 00:05:03:00
Moises
It's actually more beneficial to to do it before your workout. And the reason is, goes back to to that idea of the nervous system. And the nervous system have basically two states parasympathetic and sympathetic. So parasympathetic is basically when you're in that relaxed state, when you're in a meditative state or, you know, you just chill and relaxing and then sympathetic gets you into a high alert state, a fight or flight response where your nervous system actually increases performance, increases strength, increases adrenaline, cortisol, all of the things you needed in order to perform at a higher level.
00:05:03:20 - 00:05:29:05
Moises
So what the ice bath does is actually puts you into one of these states and like it says, it shifts your homeostasis basically where your nervous system is comfortable. So we all have a homeostasis where our nervous system understands how to, you know, regularly digest food, how to regularly go into sympathetic states and parasympathetic states, how to deal with stress, how to enjoy and be happier.
00:05:29:05 - 00:06:01:00
Moises
Sometimes I already has this idea, but if you start to do ice baths, what you do is you start to change that homeostasis. So like it's been proven to help with anxiety and depression, right? Because it's creating you to be it's putting you in a state of being in the present and it's increasing like it has mindset components as immune component as you can burn fat because it actually talks about burning brown fat when your body goes into that state and burns this specific fat.
00:06:01:11 - 00:06:03:17
Jason
Okay, now it's my thing was what's brown fat?
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Moises
Oh, yeah. So you had different types of fat. You have like brown fat, white fat, burning fat. And they're all served different purposes. So the brown fat is like the fat typically around your neck, right by your thoracic spine. And it's really do use it's there to be used very quickly. So like in moments that you need to survive right?
00:06:22:20 - 00:06:37:22
Moises
So like if you're going to sprint, you're using brown fat. If you're going ice bath, you're using brown fat because it's easily accessible and the body knows how to use it to put it back, to get the nervous system back into homeostasis. So that's what it's used for. So ice baths have been proven to help with burning of fat.
00:06:38:02 - 00:07:02:16
Moises
Right. So there's so many components here. Going back to what Rances said, it all depends on your intention. So in a renewed mindset, we use it for the mindset component. So it's really to get you to understand your self dialog when you're in a moment of discomfort. Yeah. And I think that's really beneficial when you're trying to, to understand how you perceive discomfort and deal with discomfort in your life.
00:07:03:18 - 00:07:28:16
Rances
Because fundamentally the idea of that discomfort is based off of the concept of understanding how to keep your kind of clear thought process, how to behave in a certain way, which goes under training, you know. So we talk a lot about the Navy SEAL quote about you don't rise to the occasion, you fall to your level of training.
00:07:29:03 - 00:07:58:17
Rances
So as you learn to experience those moments of discomfort, those moments of challenges and you training them, you practice in them, you learn how to bring yourself back to a place where you're, oh, I can handle this. I can deal with this. Similar to, like what Goggins says with the idea of the cookies. So in his book, in his first book, he talks about the concept of remembering your past kind of experiences.
00:07:59:01 - 00:08:18:28
Rances
And when you're in something that seems really tough, you can use those past experience, past stories on how you overcame something to help you push through another object that's in front of you, another obstacle that's in front of you. So as you go layering these experience up and you create a practice of like, Oh, I'm in one of these moments, I know how to behave here.
00:08:19:06 - 00:08:31:20
Rances
You learn how to literally and implement mental tactics to control your nervous system, to respond in a way that is going to get you the best results towards the intention that you're trying to achieve.
00:08:32:28 - 00:08:51:01
Jason
Got it. So I guess my thing is like I understand that aspect of and I get the point of doing like ice Baths or like cold showers and stuff like that. But I guess like the when people are like, oh, you should do this such and such amount of times, like you should do this every day, every week kind of thing.
00:08:51:01 - 00:09:18:01
Jason
And it's like I guess it goes down to like the point, but let's say it's somebody who like isn't an athlete because like I get the whole athlete thing, you know, and stuff like that, like getting your mental there. But like, I guess what's the I feel like is it a gimmick to get people to like to subscribe to these things where like you have to do this every morning kind of thing, like, I think I know that's a tough question to ask because it's really subjective.
00:09:18:20 - 00:09:42:18
Rances
I personally like, I think there's there's multiple layers of it and with the first layer, I'll just I'll talk about it this way. I got into fitness, into training and all of that because I wanted to share with the world were I received right. I used to train very heavily martial arts and the experience that it brought me.
00:09:43:26 - 00:10:17:09
Rances
I was so grateful for that. I wanted others to have that experience when I would talk to someone and they're having challenges and so on and so forth, I'm like, Hey, this is the answer. All right, so that was my main pursuit of why I wanted to become a coach, because I was like, I don't feel there's no moment in time when I feel more empowered, more in control, and more alive than when I'm I'm training and I'm improving and I'm able to physically express what I'm emotionally or mentally experiencing.
00:10:18:10 - 00:10:42:18
Rances
So when I got into it, I looked at it that way and I tried to get other people to do what I do. I try to get people to train the way I trained. And it was outcome based, right? When people hire a personal trainer, they're not looking for these almost spiritual awakening. They're looking for an outcome. I need to lose weight for this wedding and so on and so forth.
00:10:42:18 - 00:11:06:17
Rances
Right? Yeah. So then it becomes about the thing, it becomes about the exercise or about the reps, and it loses the essence of like this is why I want to do this. So I think a lot of it gets lost in translation in that sense where it becomes kind of an elitist thing of, Oh, this is the action that X, Y, Z does.
00:11:06:17 - 00:11:30:17
Rances
So therefore I want to be like X, Y, Z, it's about the outcome as opposed to like about the experience. So when like understanding that, like I personally do Cold showers in the morning, right? And it's why the reason why I do is what it brings to me. And I would love to tell everyone to please do this because you're going to have this amazing experience, if that's your intention.
00:11:31:08 - 00:11:50:20
Rances
But if it's not, you're not. It's just going to be a thing that you do to check off a box and it does nothing. And then you're like, Am I part of the club now? You know? And I think that's where it goes a bit. Self Yeah, that has a lot of experiences with some of the things I do well.
00:11:50:20 - 00:12:24:24
Moises
I mean I think it's, I mean Rances is, you know, Rances being Rances has that, you know, the long winded response with the story and stuff I just think is about doing it. Like do heart it. It doesn't matter what it is. It could be a cold shower. It would be a hard run. It could be. But one of the things that make and this I learned from Rances is that our purpose as human beings is to explore this world right where we're here, to create experiences, like you said and the only way you do that is by creating, like, emotional experiences.
00:12:24:24 - 00:12:48:18
Moises
And that's then through physiology, whether it's, you know, going on a roller coaster or, you know, being intimate with somebody or working out or public speaking or it doesn't matter. What matters is, is that your experience in something? But the thing is, are you trained in that? So going back to Rances’s point of like the Navy SEALs you don't rise to the occasion.
00:12:48:18 - 00:13:11:10
Moises
We fall back to our level of training. In order to do those things, you have to practice it. So you have to do hard shit every single day and cold showers is just one of them. Do they have all these scientific, neurologic or physiological benefits to it? Absolutely. So there's training. So there's drinking, alcohol. So there's all these other fucking things.
00:13:11:10 - 00:13:24:10
Moises
Everything you do, everything has a benefit and a consequence. And it's either really about, does it serve you and help you move towards whatever it is that you want to be? Or is it hurting you from becoming that thing that you want to be?
00:13:25:24 - 00:13:45:14
Jason
That's fair. I think that's that's a good explanation. So my next question goes down. It's not really like, oh, is this bullshit or whatever. I think it's just it was always interesting to me. It's, it's a human thing where it's like you need to stare at the sun for a certain amount of time because like growing up, it was always like, don't stare directly at the sun, you're going to go blind.
00:13:45:14 - 00:13:59:17
Jason
And now and now we've got some scientists. It's like, Dude, if you don't stare at the sun every day, what do you do? And I'm just curious what I don't understand why we're supposed to look at it.
00:13:59:17 - 00:14:02:24
Moises
I don't. I don't think he means directly at the sun. I don't think.
00:14:03:15 - 00:14:04:19
Jason
He's just supposed to be in sunlight.
00:14:04:19 - 00:14:06:07
Moises
You're just supposed to be. Yeah.
00:14:06:07 - 00:14:07:03
Jason
You go outside.
00:14:07:12 - 00:14:08:29
Yeah. So it's all about.
00:14:08:29 - 00:14:10:05
Jason
Saying it in a nerdy way.
00:14:10:12 - 00:14:11:12
Rances
He actually says.
00:14:11:15 - 00:14:12:17
Jason
Outside and pleasure actually.
00:14:12:17 - 00:14:14:02
Rances
Warns, you don't stare at this.
00:14:14:15 - 00:14:15:01
Jason
Oh, really?
00:14:15:01 - 00:14:17:21
Moises
Okay. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah.
00:14:18:00 - 00:14:19:18
Jason
I've been doing it wrong for the past few days.
00:14:19:18 - 00:14:22:04
Moises
And people people.
00:14:22:04 - 00:14:41:17
Moises
Take like certain clips. And I think that's the other thing with social media is like you see these clips of, you know, maybe Huberman talking about one aspect and take it so like directly, yeah, literal that it's like, this is stupid, but they don't understand the context because they didn't watch the four hour podcast that he Huberman does every fucking time.
00:14:42:01 - 00:14:55:16
Moises
So I think, but there are a lot of benefits to sun. It's all about the circadian rhythm. The circadian rhythm is like the clock inside of our bodies, our nervous system.
00:14:56:14 - 00:14:57:21
Jason
Using these SAT words.
00:14:57:21 - 00:14:57:29
Moises
No.
00:14:59:03 - 00:15:26:15
Moises
Well, it what it does, it's it it enables us to really understand when our peak kind of performance is throughout the day. Ah, and there is a general circadian rhythm to like the human body itself and the sun helps create alignment between those things. So if you think about it, if you think about all the different animals that that are up like we were just talking about my dog waking up at 545.
00:15:26:25 - 00:15:27:13
Jason
Yeah, right.
00:15:27:24 - 00:15:47:29
Moises
It's because of the sun. The sun starts to come up around that time. He knows it's daytime and it's nighttime for his walk and it's time to get go to eat, which he's excited for. So he has this rhythm in his his body that allows him to just wake up naturally. And the same thing for us as well.
00:15:49:02 - 00:16:15:26
Moises
But there are things that can throw your circadian rhythm off, such as blue light, talking about like the computers, the cell phones, the TV and that message with. Yeah, fluorescent lights. Yeah, that's what he said. So those things will throw your circadian rhythm off and actually disrupt your sleep. Because even though you may be going to sleep at 830, if you're getting that blue light, your brain perceives that the daylight air, the sun is still out.
00:16:16:19 - 00:16:37:22
Moises
So the brain activity is still really high even though you're sleeping. So you're not really, truly getting deep sleep. So this is why this looking at the sun or being in the sun more specifically early in the morning when you wake up helps set that kind of rhythm in tone. You'll notice yourself getting more tired by like seven, 6:00.
00:16:37:22 - 00:16:44:08
Moises
Like once the sun starts coming down, you feel sleepy. But if you're watching TV or you're watching Blue Light, you're going to disrupt that pattern.
00:16:45:00 - 00:16:49:24
Jason
And I must have I've been disrupting that pattern for so fucking long because I fall asleep with the TV on.
00:16:50:02 - 00:16:51:28
Moises
You and 200 million Americans.
00:16:51:28 - 00:16:54:13
Jason
Yeah, everything. Everybody in the fucking world, pretty much.
00:16:54:14 - 00:17:12:13
Rances
Yeah, that's that's a key factor with all of this, right? All of this becomes very heightened in terms of like, oh, this is like a miracle thing because of what's actually happening, how people are living their lives. So now it's like when in the past you didn't have to even recommend this because it was part of our natural habit.
00:17:12:23 - 00:17:21:27
Rances
Now it's something that has to be practiced purposefully. Right. And another thing to, to, to speaking on top of what I am.
00:17:23:14 - 00:17:25:09
Jason
I left those your special glasses.
00:17:25:16 - 00:17:27:05
Yeah. The blue light glasses.
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Moises
Yeah.
00:17:28:05 - 00:17:33:19
Rances
So one of one of the factors with the light is are you familiar with cortisol Jay?
00:17:33:19 - 00:17:34:24
Jason
No
00:17:35:11 - 00:17:43:28
Rances
So cortisol is like the stress hormone, right? It's been known for it's like, oh, this is stress. We need to keep our cortisol levels down. And so on, so forth.
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Jason
I call that Ashley
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Rances
Now what's understood more is about cortisol is not like we have to keep it down. It's like kind of what we were talking about with ice baths is like we need to be able to regulate it, but also it serves a very important purpose. So when you receive like you get an increase of cortisol and going back to a Moises was saying your circadian rhythm starts to adjust the energy within your body.
00:18:16:15 - 00:18:44:24
Rances
So in the more early morning you're exposed yourself to light you spike up. Your chorus always helps you wake up, which helps you gain energy for the day and and nighttime also regulates that. It's like, oh, we receive cortisol this early in the morning, so it must be time to start bringing it down. So all of those things are signaling in your body, but what it does is fundamentally just connects us back to nature, connects us back to our natural rhythm of things.
00:18:45:10 - 00:19:08:25
Rances
And when you like, the easiest way to think about this is like, you know, you travel to another country, you get jetlagged, why do you get jetlag? Your whole system gets disrupted because you're in a different time zone. When you think about time is something is a construct invented by man y well, because of the sun, that's the only thing that time represents with when it comes to being jetlagged.
00:19:09:02 - 00:19:31:06
Rances
Yeah, the sun has changed and so therefore our signals are confused as to what it's being received by it. So that just gives an indication of the power that the sunlight has on your system, on your digestive system, or your energy levels, on your on your hunger, on your sleep cycles, everything like we are.
00:19:31:06 - 00:19:34:09
Moises
Robots!
00:19:34:09 - 00:19:34:27
Rances
We are plants.
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Jason
Plant based robots.
00:19:36:12 - 00:19:37:14
Moises
Plant based robots.
00:19:39:00 - 00:19:56:26
Jason
No, I think that's interesting. You know what? Now you mention that. I wonder what it was like, like everything in the start of the pandemic, like when everybody was, like, on lockdown and stuff like that. Like, I remember, like when I got my physical, like when we started, when you could like go out anything. I had really low vitamin D levels because I was an out.
00:19:56:26 - 00:20:15:00
Jason
I was always fucking inside. I always had the shades down and stuff like that kind of thing. So it's like, I think there's a big push in it now because because of that, where people were locked in for so long and they people like mentally I think went a little stir crazy, especially like when people were allowed to allowed out for a little bit.
00:20:15:00 - 00:20:33:26
Jason
Like remember that summer when they started like doing like the oh you can drink on the sidewalk kind of thing. The wild shit that you saw, people like it was like old people acting like college kids again kind of thing. I think it has a lot to do with like that whole rhythm. Everybody's rhythm got thrown off. It was really weird to see how people reacted when they finally were able to go back outside.
00:20:35:04 - 00:21:04:09
Rances
I can attest to that because like for me, I was I was in tight like during that time. I was inside with my kids taking care of my kids all day long. My wife was still going out to work. So she works in the medical field. So when they said, like, you can go out, I remember I went out for a walk and that day and I literally felt my body like, Oh my God, I fucking needed this.
00:21:04:09 - 00:21:04:21
Rances
I needed.
00:21:05:09 - 00:21:05:12
Jason
The.
00:21:05:16 - 00:21:06:19
Rances
Sun. Like, Oh, my God.
00:21:06:19 - 00:21:07:12
Moises
Like, yeah.
00:21:08:11 - 00:21:12:22
Rances
My mood literally change in a walk.
00:21:12:22 - 00:21:34:06
Moises
Yeah. Well, I mean, I remember during that time, after we were assigned to let out and it was like summertime came. I was outside all the time, and I actually got in my best shape. I was like, my best shape was in like 2020. And the reason why was I was just outside without my shirt working out all the time because there's nothing else to do.
00:21:34:17 - 00:21:34:24
Moises
Yeah.
00:21:35:07 - 00:21:48:27
Moises
Right. So what I learned was that my vitamin D levels were actually a lot higher during that time. And because of that, I have this this hypothesis. I don't know, there's some research paper out there. I'm wondering if there are some studies.
00:21:49:02 - 00:21:50:05
Jason
Bro Science right now. Let's go.
00:21:50:06 - 00:22:22:01
Moises
Yeah, but we're going to do some Bro science. So my theory is that so everything on this planet needs the sun for the most part, like plants and all those things. So your nervous system knows this, and if it's not the way that it knows this is by receiving vitamin D and if it's receiving vitamin D, then the nervous system kind of understands or should understand that there's a probably a decent amount of food source out there, so it doesn't hold on to fat, so it begins to use fat to do whatever it is that you're doing.
00:22:22:01 - 00:22:42:08
Moises
Right at that time for myself, it was working out right. But when you're vitamin D is your vitamin D is low. My hypothesis is that you're nervous. System is in a stressed state and says, hold up this, but there's no vitamin D. That means there must be a low amount of food source because plants need vitamin D as well to be able to grow on the sun.
00:22:42:23 - 00:22:54:14
Moises
So there must be a low amount of food source. Therefore hold on to this fat because you don't know if this person is going to get the right nutrient nutrients in order to survive. So that was I.
00:22:54:14 - 00:22:56:02
Jason
I understand half of that, but.
00:22:58:04 - 00:22:58:16
Moises
Rances did that make sense?
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Jason
Also that was the closest you got to sounding like Rances It's just now.
00:23:02:02 - 00:23:02:13
Moises
Shit.
00:23:04:27 - 00:23:06:04
Jason
Like storage fat what?
00:23:07:01 - 00:23:39:24
Rances
But there is there is a hypothesis on you guys remember mitochondria the powerhouse of the cell. Right but there's a hypothesis that the mitochondria of your all your cells in your body actually respond to like that. They communicate with each other through light. And they've they've been able to to have to show impacts of this by disrupting someone's sleep, by being in a pitch dark room and just shining a light behind their knee.
00:23:41:04 - 00:24:14:09
Rances
And that disrupts their sleep because their mitochondria the theory is the mitochondria are responding to their light and with that light are stimulating more activity to process, to elevate cortisol and all that stuff. So within the cell, they're responding, communicating and basing their their activity basically off of the information they're receiving through that light source. So it can have a deep impact to your your system, not to mention your your digestive system, where your stomach, your what is it called?
00:24:14:09 - 00:24:14:21
Rances
With a.
00:24:16:03 - 00:24:16:13
Moises
intestines
00:24:16:29 - 00:24:17:20
Rances
No, the.
00:24:19:19 - 00:24:22:01
Jason
Tummy.
00:24:22:01 - 00:24:29:25
Rances
You know, that the germs that live in your stomach, that dictate what is called the
00:24:29:25 - 00:24:30:21
Moises
microbiome.
00:24:30:21 - 00:24:54:11
Rances
Microbiome. Yes. Thank you. That the microbiome in your stomach also has a big impact, not just from the food that you're eating, but on the sun activity. So the microbiome has been there's been a lot of research and studies showing lately how much the microbiome impacts your personality, behavior, activity, everything to the point.
00:24:54:11 - 00:24:55:19
Jason
Where I get hangry.
00:24:56:13 - 00:24:58:29
Moises
Yeah. Yeah. So that's one.
00:24:58:29 - 00:25:06:00
Jason
Of those scientific stories in a baby. It's a scientific thing that my, my tell me critters are getting angry.
00:25:06:14 - 00:25:15:07
Moises
And, you know, there's a hypothesis that says or theory, this doctor that came out with it that says that we're really being controlled by bacteria and we're just like the.
00:25:16:03 - 00:25:17:17
Rances
Just the big robot that the big.
00:25:17:17 - 00:25:19:20
Moises
Robot that's controlled by bacteria.
00:25:19:28 - 00:25:36:27
Jason
Like the faculty were. Guys, remember the movie The Faculty? Josh Hartnett There's Elijah Wood. You guys got to watch that thing because it's these little these little aliens start crawling into everybody's ears. They take over school and they and they basically take over these people. It's like Invasion of the Body Snatchers, essentially.
00:25:36:29 - 00:25:37:05
Moises
Yeah.
00:25:37:05 - 00:25:54:12
Jason
That's what these little parasites that that started doing it. And there's like one group, like Queen Parasite kind of thing. I highly recommend it. You guys should definitely watch the faculty. It's a great fucking movie. Came out like 1999. Ushers in it like there's every young actor that you can think of is in it. But that reminded me exactly of it, that.
00:25:54:18 - 00:25:57:06
Moises
That's what it is and it's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah.
00:25:57:08 - 00:26:00:29
Jason
And I bet against that that might be a real thing.
00:26:00:29 - 00:26:24:20
Moises
I mean, there's a doctor that says that it's possibly real and it's the reason why is because of the it controls our dopamine and serotonin, right? So a lot of our neuro like our stomach has almost if not the same amount of neural networks that our brain does. And so there's three components that have like those same type of cells, neural cells, which is your your stomach, your heart and your brain.
00:26:26:19 - 00:26:32:08
Moises
And if you think about it, those are probably the areas that you make the decisions with in your life. Right?
00:26:32:08 - 00:26:33:20
Jason
So most of it, yeah.
00:26:33:20 - 00:26:42:00
Rances
Yeah. Just just to support that. There's first of all, they're doing like fecal transplant for people. That's fecal matter.
00:26:42:00 - 00:26:43:27
Moises
Like they put Shit in your stomach.
00:26:44:03 - 00:26:45:17
Rances
Yeah, someone else is.
00:26:45:27 - 00:26:47:24
Jason
They're putting, like, clean poop in somebody's stomach?
00:26:48:06 - 00:26:49:12
Rances
I don't know if it's clean...
00:26:49:12 - 00:26:50:03
Moises
It's healthy. Yeah.
00:26:50:10 - 00:26:51:24
Jason
Healthy, healthy.
00:26:52:02 - 00:27:19:29
Rances
So this is the study that they've done with this is like they've taken a depressed person and a healthy, mentally healthy person and they've transplanted fecal matter from one to the other. Yeah. The person that was mentally healthy became depressed and the person that was depressed became mentally healthy simply by changing their microbiome.
00:27:19:29 - 00:27:37:21
Jason
Oh, that's interesting. I always hear things like you hear like urban legends of like when somebody gets like a transplant, like from an organ and stuff like that, like they start like have like memories from that person who that they got their organ donated from and stuff like that. They might start taking like personality traits. So that's, that's really interesting.
00:27:38:02 - 00:28:02:03
Moises
So that's, that's actual that's actually kind of true too. So the study of epigenetics is that so trauma passed down from our great, great, great, great, great, great parents, right? It's embedded in our DNA to help us survive. So like, if your if your great great great grandfather was in a war and knew how to fight and box and all of these things, right.
00:28:02:12 - 00:28:20:06
Moises
So theoretically, it could be passed down to you, right? Because it was a mechanism used to survive during that time. So it says, oh, this is information that's needed in order to survive. Hence why some people may have b talented at certain things like boxing or fighting or anything.
00:28:20:06 - 00:28:29:26
Jason
Those now I just want to my dad's love that that's so easy. I was thinking I wasn't his daughter anymore, so I started picking up fighting.
00:28:31:29 - 00:28:32:19
Moises
There like that.
00:28:32:19 - 00:28:34:20
Moises
Your dad was a fighter, though. He was a wrestler.
00:28:34:21 - 00:28:35:13
Jason
He wrestled.
00:28:35:20 - 00:28:37:13
Moises
Yeah, he was.
00:28:37:16 - 00:28:38:27
Moises
He was a top wrestler, though. And that.
00:28:38:28 - 00:28:39:27
Jason
Yeah, no, he was really good.
00:28:39:27 - 00:28:41:13
Moises
Yeah, he was really good. Yeah.
00:28:41:13 - 00:28:43:01
Moises
I mean, you have to pick up something from that.
00:28:43:21 - 00:29:09:13
Jason
You know, Dodge a chancleta you know, you know. But no, that's. Oh, one last thing. Going back to the whole sunlight thing and like how that affects people. It's really interesting. Like when you think about like people who get put into like solitary confinement in prison and stuff like that, like how like they start going crazy and you know, and it's not just like it's not just like, oh, like you're you're staring at a fucking brick wall for the entire time.
00:29:09:13 - 00:29:16:15
Jason
Like, it has to do a lot with, with your genetics and stuff like that. From what you guys were talking, I never thought of it that way. And so just now.
00:29:17:18 - 00:29:18:17
Moises
With absolutely.
00:29:18:27 - 00:29:28:06
Jason
Like not only is your mind fucking losing it, like your your body is literally going fucking crazy because it doesn't have that source anymore.
00:29:28:21 - 00:29:29:05
Rances
But I mean.
00:29:29:14 - 00:29:30:05
Moises
You know, guys.
00:29:30:18 - 00:29:44:12
Rances
I was just going to say that goes like what you just said, that goes into the point of like, well, we talk about like the body is not the mind and the body. The body is just simply an extension of the mind is one of the ways that the mind interacts and absorbs information.
00:29:44:23 - 00:29:46:22
Moises
Mm hmm.
00:29:46:22 - 00:30:20:05
Moises
Yeah. I think, like, if you think about mental health disorders and it being passed down, the nervous system doesn't really know what is best for survival. Right? It's guessing. It's just evolution. Right? It keeps trying things so like schizophrenia and bipolar and all these different things that exist that could you could be genetically predisposed to is already in your cellular information or in your DNA as a possibility or tool or mechanism to try to survive a piece of trauma occurs.
00:30:20:24 - 00:30:42:10
Moises
So like people, they experience these things because, oh, what was I going to say? I'm saying like for example, I'm thinking about my grandfather, right? My grandfather was a schizophrenic. And the reason he was was because in the Korean War, his job was solely to bury the bodies of dead soldiers. That was his job, number one job. That's it.
00:30:43:04 - 00:31:08:09
Moises
That's all he did for like six years in the Korean War. Right. So because of that, yeah, he became a schizophrenic. Right. And in my family, there's there's a possibility of that gone into place. So theoretically, I'm more predisposed to that mental health disorder and anything that can push my nervous system into a traumatic state can trigger that tool or mechanism in order to survive.
00:31:09:18 - 00:31:10:10
Moises
Interesting.
00:31:10:10 - 00:31:18:19
Moises
And that's why I'm saying the nervous system doesn't really know what's good or bad. It's just guessing on essentially what is the best trait for survival.
00:31:19:07 - 00:31:19:18
Jason
Hmm.
00:31:21:08 - 00:31:22:10
Moises
And it does that with everything.
00:31:23:01 - 00:31:51:24
Rances
Yeah, that's I love that bullet point because it really falls fundamentally to the idea of like, what is evolution, right? People, in my opinion, have a have a, an idea of evolution, which is supported by that that vision that we see with evolution, which is image of the monkey becoming a person. Right? That is this linear thing that is like, oh, everything is purposeful and intentional.
00:31:52:02 - 00:32:16:13
Rances
It's not. It's just like random things, whatever. It doesn't get you killed keeps keeps going, right? It's not intentional. It's not like, oh, these are the best, the best set of thumbs that we could have created or the best, whatever. It's just simply we didn't die from this, so we kept it. That's literally what it is. If this thing made you trip up and die, then look, that gets deleted.
00:32:16:19 - 00:32:39:22
Rances
We'll try some more shit. And that is what essentially what evolution is. So there's, there is really no such thing as like, oh, this is good, this is the bad, this is it. It's all just a guessing game. And it's like, Oh, I just tried something random and it worked out here and now it's this really cool feature that's called The Ear, you know, that's literally what it is.
00:32:40:24 - 00:32:42:26
Jason
So not to not continue, I'm sorry.
00:32:43:04 - 00:33:08:05
Rances
So I was just going to say bring to bring it back to the topic of what we're we're talking about with like all these like hacks, if you will, and it's looking at these behaviors in that way where we get to kind of trick this survival system into applying something that we want out of life. So we want we do ice based.
00:33:08:05 - 00:33:30:23
Rances
Why? Because it this whole evolutionary road, it clicks something along that road that ends up giving us this one benefit that we're like, oh, this is this is helpful. We can use this, especially with the situation we're doing with now. This is helpful or the sunlight, oh, let's do this. Because again, evolutionary randomness of it all. So it's just about hacking the, the, the system that is being human.
00:33:31:26 - 00:33:47:23
Jason
And say, yeah, you know, not say anything about like that this wonderful pool that's behind me. I was a little I think I'm the only person here right now who is bummed to find out that it was heated. Hmm. I jumped in. I was like, it's warmer than it is outside. Like, this is. Thank you, but.
00:33:48:24 - 00:33:48:29
Moises
I.
00:33:48:29 - 00:33:57:29
Jason
Wanted to jump. It's like a cold, refreshing pool. And I jumped into a very large hot tub. Its nice but like fuck, I'm sweating.
00:33:58:01 - 00:33:58:16
Moises
Yes.
00:33:59:21 - 00:34:41:11
Rances
You know, j this just that just reminded me of of what you had said a couple podcasts ago with being grateful, right? There's like, you know, you are resistant to it and it's like kind of fucking works. And that's, that's really the thing with, with all this stuff is like and the whole purpose of like, oh, ice baths in the morning and doing meditation and doing whatever know it's the difference between like, Hey, this is something that you're, you're going to build up over time and you're going to train yourself to change your perspective by doing these things.
00:34:41:22 - 00:35:05:08
Rances
All right? It's going to change your perspective. It's going to change your homeostasis or change your adaptability. And that's what that's the positive side of it. But as soon as you bring in this concept of like, I need to do this because that's the only way I can be successful, so, so forth. Now it just becomes an anxiety producing activity that's only going to facilitate that anxiety.
00:35:06:04 - 00:35:30:12
Jason
Yeah, I think that's well said. And on that note, let's not forget that everybody can like subscribe and comment on our YouTube page, find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts and anywhere else so you can find a podcast. Please call it. Tell us what things do you like to do in the mornings? So, so things you think are fucking bullshit.
00:35:31:26 - 00:35:53:04
Jason
I don't necessarily do ice fast, but you know what I do like to do in the morning aside from play with myself is go spare. I like to I like to fight at like 6:00 in the morning because like the day can't get much harder than getting punched in the face and there's something wonderful about like by 730, if I have a black eye like this, like, how much worse can a day get?
00:35:53:04 - 00:36:08:21
Jason
I got punched in the face repeatedly, like it can't get much worse kind of thing. So like for my mental thing, like that always helps me for some reason and I've learned to like it, really enjoy having like a hard workouts or like hard sparring early in the morning.
00:36:09:09 - 00:36:10:27
Rances
Put things into perspective, right?
00:36:11:03 - 00:36:30:29
Jason
It really does like even like my Sundays for sparring and stuff like that. Like it starts at like 930 when people start getting there. I get there when the gym opens at seven and I'm like, run three miles, do the jump rope, get us sweaty and like do like all my exercise and and the first guy who's in there, I'm like, You want a spar?
00:36:30:29 - 00:36:48:28
Jason
Anybody? There's a 70 year old man who who comes in. He's a sweetheart. And I don't like we we move around and, you know, I go really, really, really light with him. But even him, like, let's go, let's I need somebody somebody to hit me. I need you to hit me to wake me up. And that's my way of waking up is by getting hit.
00:36:49:16 - 00:36:58:26
Jason
And I think it's because my parents never really hit me. I really think that's what it comes down. I think they just love me too much and I need this. I was told I was great for way too long.
00:37:00:05 - 00:37:06:03
Rances
You know what is really amazing about all of this is like people need to understand the back story with Jay.
00:37:06:24 - 00:37:09:19
Moises
Like the Lazy bum that he was.
00:37:10:25 - 00:37:12:07
Rances
Like.
00:37:12:07 - 00:37:25:17
Rances
I invited him for years to come train in the morning for boot camp. He would just give me the middle finger and like, you know, no way. Hey, Jay, let's try to eat this instead of that. And I'm having McDonald's up this.
00:37:25:29 - 00:37:29:19
Rances
Like like this. This is amazing.
00:37:29:19 - 00:37:30:27
Moises
Yeah. Yeah,
00:37:30:27 - 00:37:31:10
Jason
yeah, yeah.
00:37:31:13 - 00:37:35:03
Jason
I'm kind of my calories, the fucking 20, 300 calories a day now.
00:37:35:21 - 00:37:36:05
Moises
Oh, nice.
00:37:37:00 - 00:37:38:05
Moises
Yeah, that's good. Have you dropped weight?
00:37:38:05 - 00:37:41:20
Jason
Yeah, yeah. I'm like 166 right now.
00:37:42:20 - 00:37:43:10
Moises
Oh, so.
00:37:43:10 - 00:37:43:26
Jason
It's, it's.
00:37:43:28 - 00:37:44:17
Moises
Pretty good.
00:37:44:23 - 00:38:10:04
Jason
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, like we were talking, it's 2lbs I'm talking to you like 2lbs a week and see how that goes. I had a hotdog earlier, but without the bun. Very sexual. I make sure to lock eyes with Ashley while I did it. And no, no fork. I didn't cut it. I just.
00:38:11:25 - 00:38:12:02
Moises
Like Rances did the other day?
00:38:14:12 - 00:38:31:06
Jason
He stuck a fork in it. He stuck a fork in his sausages, ate it, didn’t cut it. And I said, Fuck it, grab that thing. It just looked. didn’t smile or nothing just got real wide eyed, it was wonderful.
00:38:32:02 - 00:38:33:25
Rances
Mindset U ladies and gentlemen.
00:38:35:16 - 00:38:39:27
Jason
what we’re all about. At least I waited this long to say something fucked up.
00:38:41:11 - 00:38:49:24
Moises
But I'm curious to know if there's any other podcast that that gives you some valuable educational material and dick jokes. At the same time.
00:38:51:18 - 00:38:54:28
Jason
I just try to steer that place straight into the ground.
00:38:54:28 - 00:39:00:01
Moises
It's like, Huberman doesn't do this, guys. We give you way
00:39:00:01 - 00:39:04:20
Moises
More than Huberman does and we do it in less than than an hour.
00:39:04:20 - 00:39:05:22
Jason
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:05:22 - 00:39:06:08
Moises
Four hours
00:39:08:02 - 00:39:12:05
Rances
Although we were starting to trek getting longer and longer with that but I.
00:39:12:05 - 00:39:12:17
Jason
Think this Is good
00:39:12:17 - 00:39:13:06
Rances
we're right on the mark
00:39:14:28 - 00:39:34:24
Jason
I think we found a good spot. So on this note, guys, thank you. I think we learned a lot. I learned actually I learned a lot. This podcast. Mo lost me a little bit. starting to talk like you But surprising enough Rances this time I fucking I understood Rances today I know what's happening in the world.
00:39:35:22 - 00:39:36:00
Jason
Maybe.
00:39:36:00 - 00:39:39:00
Jason
I've been outside all day I think that might be. I got
00:39:39:00 - 00:39:41:05
Moises
you got Some more Sun
00:39:41:05 - 00:39:41:15
Jason
got more Sun.
00:39:41:15 - 00:39:43:24
Moises
Is your mitochondria. It's lit. Up.
00:39:43:24 - 00:39:44:16
Jason
Lit up!
00:39:44:27 - 00:39:48:18
Jason
I'm about to go jumping that pool right here but.
00:39:48:18 - 00:39:49:04
Jason
Wow.
00:39:50:00 - 00:39:57:12
Jason
Wow, wow, wow. on that note. Guys, thank you so much. And we'll we'll talk soon.
00:39:57:26 - 00:40:02:24
Rances
Yeah. Check us out VidaProject.com or find the podcast as Mindset U
00:40:03:09 - 00:40:19:21
Jason
Jason here of Mindset U and I just want to thank you all from the part of my heart for tuning in and watching us every week since Mindset U is Taking a different approach. We need your help coming up with new topics of stuff that you want to hear so that we can give you the best quality possible, the best content possible in general.
00:40:20:06 - 00:40:36:08
Jason
It's fun. Come on, help us out. Help us help you. Anyway, you can head over to VidaProject.com Watch any of the old episodes. Any of the new upcoming episodes are coming. You can also check us out on Instagram and YouTube and anywhere else you could possibly think of that you want to be. Let us know. We'll be there.
00:40:36:18 - 00:40:39:22
Jason
All right. Thank you so much.