Career Change Fears: Building the Confidence to Pursue Your Passion - Part 3/5 Podcast
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In this series, we're exploring different ways to build the confidence to pursue your passion, no matter what it may be. In this episode, we're talking about how to develop the mindset and skills needed for success, no matter what career change fears you may have.
If you're struggling with developing the confidence needed to pursue your passions, this series is for you! In each episode, we'll be talking about a different topic related to career change and how to overcome any fear that might be holding you back. Finally, by the end of the series, you'll have the tools to chase your dreams with confidence and trust in yourself! Visit us at Vidaproject.com!
0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Episode Topic
0:29 - From Fitness to Leadership
3:02 - Exposure to those who think different
6:01 - Rances No need for hospital
8:11 - Introduce Rances to the hospital
10:38 - But you'll survive
14:12 - support fights mindset
15:10 - Hope leads to support
17:00 - Outro
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Rances
Welcome to Mindset U podcast your source of mindset education. We aim to provide you with free valuable education for you to thrive. Enjoy. In Episode three of Career Change Fears, the guys and I talk about how our mindset had a big impact in how we decided to make changes in our lives, but also how fear of health insurance has been a big thing.
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Rances
Check out our sometimes comical suggestions on how to deal with that.
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Moises
So first I feel bad because I was like the guy I fucking like. I fucking feel that I influenced Rances sometimes to change the brand image and the purpose of VidaProject And I know Rances doesn't think this.
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Rances
Moises has an inflated ego, that it makes him see it that.
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Jason
Way. I told you guys it was a little bit longer than 5 minutes, but we hear and sit back and enjoy.
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Moises
But. But before, like VidaProject was known for fitness.
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Jason
Yeah. That's how I when I had joined VidaProject as a client, it was for fitness.
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Moises
And that was always a very big problem for us because, you know, obviously we were more than a gym as the the thing in the front of our window said. And now, you know, I'm telling people, you know, I'm sure, Rances, you experienced this as well. Like when we tell people, oh, yeah, we're closing the gym and everybody go, oh, I'm sorry.
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Moises
I'm like, No, no, we're just we're changing, you know, we're doing something different. And it's like, how do you go from fitness to, you know, corporate leadership coaching and productivity coaching, organizational consulting, stuff like that? How do you go from, you know, fitness to to to this all of a sudden? And it's like, no, it's it's the same.
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Jason
Skill it is. Because you guys are always about mindset. And I think that's and when I and I said before, when I was like, oh, like you guys played a big part, it was, it was the VidaProject mindset of how you attack things and how you deal with things. And if you are consistent about it and you do it by methodical way and you think outside the box, you're going to get better, you're going to have a better outlook, like honestly and truly.
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Jason
Like, I won't name any names, but like my, my patience for people keep you very fucking thin and I had to learn as a person that you have to accept people. But even that, like with you guys learning patience and learning and being able to listen to people helped me a lot. And I think it's helped me with this new job where it's like I'm able to listen more and I'm able to to not automatically write somebody off if they're just not my cup of tea kind of thing.
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Jason
Because before you know me, when I was younger, I was able to fuck. I was ruthless. If I didn't agree with something, I'll let you know and I'll let you know all the reasons why I think you're stupid for thinking that way. Most likely make you cry and then laugh at you for crying. I'm not like that anymore.
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Jason
At least not. Not in for I take it out in boxing instead.
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Rances
You know what I and I think of exactly what you talked about, like accepting people being able to and then just of next to, to Moises comment about like influencing the change of whatever. So when when I was growing up, I felt that I was very different from everyone around me. I always felt this like a feeling that I see.
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Rances
I see the world differently, that that people just don't understand. So, like, there was there's no point of me even talking like I used to be quiet.
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Jason
You're silent. You were silent, Bob, in high school.
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Rances
And not just in high school. And like I went to school, like, I was just quiet. Like, I had these perspectives and thoughts and ideas that I remember a cousin of mine who was like 13 or something. And, you know, she, she, we've been like she lived a few blocks away. We hung out our entire life. She was she's much older than me.
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Rances
But when I was 13, we ended up like just hanging out at my parents house in the couch and talking like we talked all night. And she was like, Holy shit. Like, we had this. Has this person been.
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Jason
I thought, this story is going to go another way because, the way you're sitting it up, you know, I was like Please don't tell this on Camera Rances!
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Rances
No, Come On! No
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Moises
Jays like Rances, You’re going to ruin the brand!
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Jason
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Rances
Not go in that direction. I never had anything like that. So for Jay, I've never had anything like that.
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Jason
Listen, I don't want to stereotype, but, you know, you were setting it up for an awkward confession!
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Rances
No, what I was saying is, is the idea of like like there was a certain level of arrogance that I had growing up my entire life, but also on a certain level of like, I'm not accepted and I'm not I'm not the way people would look at me, the way people would would I would explain something and people would look at me and be like, Fuck are you talking about, They shut up and I...
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Moises
that still happens though...
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Rances
It does. It’s been it's been it’s been a thing throughout my entire life. So anyways, that perspective for me did make me go into like a fork in the road where, where I could have continued to like show myself away from everyone. But I think having the exposure of my father, where my father, like he talked about, like having health insurance and all that stuff, my father was an entrepreneur his entire life.
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Rances
Like he started as he came here to this country and just like found random jobs with fixed people's things and stuff like that. And he opened up a butcher shop, then he opened up a refrigeration part store. And he's just been like throwing stuff at the wall and figuring it out. And so, like for us, for example, I didn't go to the to the hospital and never been to the hospital until 2014 was the first time I went to the hospital.
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Rances
Jesus Christ is the first time I've been admitted to the hospital myself. Yeah, I have. I have a scar here.
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Jason
For proboscis and think.
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Rances
I was small playing an instrument for.
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Jason
This.
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Rances
Bike so it didn't have the handle. It was just a tube. And the tube fell into my head and stabbed me. Right. Giant open flap of skin when my parents said they grabbed a what's it called, a lupa... the lens that lets you read?
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Moises
Magnifying.
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Rances
A magnifying glass. And my mom's holding it and my dad has a needle that he's putting on the fire and dipping in alcohol. And they stitched me up themselves that that's how we were raised.
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Jason
Oh, that feels accurate.
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Rances
When you telling your story about like health insurance and stuff like that. To me it was like eho needs that?
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Jason
Is.
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Moises
Rances is like, “Pussy”!
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Jason
Yeah.
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Rances
Why is that? Why is that even even a thought of like, oh, this is going to be something I lose. It's like, what's it called?
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Jason
But I think it's called getting a hospital bill. That's what.
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Rances
It's called. That like push me into that perspective. Like now I have this view of the world and then I have my father who just I can create and figured figure things out. So it was like, all right, now go into the world and just figure shit out. Like, don't worry about how people do things, just figure shit out.
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Rances
And like to me that was a big aspect of, of my character. So, so like when Moises says, oh, like I influence you is like, my direction is this way, whether we have to get there on, on a bike, on a car, on an airplane, whatever, it doesn't matter as long as we're going into that direction. So like the ways the house doesn't matter to me.
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Rances
It's like where we shipping to. So I don't mind adapting and adjusting. Yeah. As long as we continue to see the.
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Jason
Big picture mind kind of thing, you know. So that that's a great thing to have, especially as entrepreneur. I have a question for you though, since we're gonna talk about being a pussy for wanting health insurance. If one of your kids right now.
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Rances
My kids cough and we go to the hospital
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Jason
thats what i’m talking about thing you guys are always sick but if one of them split their head opener you can be like Paola get me the needle and put under the Lamp
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Rances
No, I still have a lot of that attitude. Now this comes the battles with my wife. So I had never been in the hospital myself, but when I met my wife's family I would be visiting the hospital every other week to visit one of her family members or herself. Whether it's Hector that, you know, breaking something, everything, every bone his body would be breaking every other week.
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Rances
So I was like, What the hell's wrong with it? I used to call him Mr. Glass. Her, her, her other brother got into dumb stuff and end up like either fights or like experiments or and then Paola, who just made some questionable choices at times. Like one time we had to go to the hospital because she drank a whole thing of soap.
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Rances
It was it a purpose? Those issues like she was at work and she had a cup of Gatorade and right next to it was a soap, a whole thing, a soap. And she chugged it and then realized that it was soap. So they called me from her work. She a hospital. So like I started to beat.
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Moises
The shit out of you.
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Jason
For doing this.
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Rances
So, so, so like her family were very, very hospital oriented, which so then that through to my kids, we go to the hospital.
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Jason
I have so many questions about how. So what did she think? This isn't Gatorade.
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Moises
Yeah. Like, when was the point that she was just.
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Rances
Like, I don't.
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Jason
Know, when it was, like, real syrupy, like when it is, you know.
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Rances
But that and then she would have like, you know, one time we had to run to the hospital for, for her ovaries. She had to have our ovary removed, like all these things. I was just like, yo, what the hell? Why you guys need the hospital so much? Like something I understand, but obviously now she's my wife. I'm, like, fucking dying.
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Rances
I'm taking her to hospital.
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Jason
I still refuse to go to the hospital even though I have health issues. I just like knowing that if I had to go, like when I got my gallbladder taken out, it took me eight months. I'm dealing with, well, tremendous pain. It finally reached like 12 hours of pain. I was like, I think I have to go now because of dying.
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Rances
Yeah.
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Moises
So here's my my my view on health insurance. Someone who came up with health insurance always had health insurance because my parents worked for the government and I worked for the government. So it was great leaving. I knew I wasn't going to have health insurance. But the idea of money, the the illusion that money really creates and this made for good people's heads now because it's just like what is Moises talking about?
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Moises
Because, I don't know, money is like everything. Health insurance is important, but in reality, like, you'll figure it out. Yeah, right. Like the hospital, you can go to a hospital and the hospital won't deny you. Yeah, you'll get a big ass bill. Right. But the worst case scenario is you file bankruptcy. Serious.
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Jason
It's people become homeless.
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Moises
No, you don't become homeless. You don't become homeless. Like people file bankruptcy all the time. Right? You get to you get to write off, you know, a percentage of your medical bill, right? You will survive like the world isn't going to end. And the whole idea for me, like, because my my parents, I was one of the things they said, like, you're not going to have health insurance.
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Moises
I was like, I'm young, I'm healthy, I'm going to be fine. And I was like, I was either you pay for it or or I'll figure it out myself. I was like, I know you're not going to let me die right? Like and I think.
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Jason
Oh, watch.
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Rances
Bet, bet.
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Jason
But see, that's fucked because I'm only just like, that's my thing. I'm like, you fucking let me die. They have another one. Yeah, they go, We fucked up at that one, but at least we have her. She has kids.
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Moises
So like and I'm good to come to my point that this, this, this conjecture is that when you believe in yourself and you understand that you have the people around you that will support you, like it makes it easier to make that decision. And I think that's important too, because like sometimes I see homeless people on the street, right?
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Moises
And I'm like, I could I can understand how someone gets there, but the only way that I understand that someone gets there is just like they have no one.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Moises
And that's how they got there. They had no one and they fell to whatever coping mechanisms or, you know, drugs or, you know, bad scenarios that got them into that that situation. And they just didn't have the support system there. But to me, it's like if you had the support system, you had the skills and you understand that everything that you do in your life is about sharpening your skills, you're going to be fine even if you go into a big hole of fight, which I did.
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Moises
Yeah, I personally, I, yeah, I ruined my credit, but I also got my credit back. Now, you know, I didn't file bankruptcy. I was close, but I didn't. And if you think about all of the successful people out there, they've all been at that point, like listen to all their stories. They all have gotten to that point, ruin their credit, gotten close to bankruptcy.
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Moises
I mean, fuck the president of the United States, Donald Trump. At one point you filed bankruptcy like 25 times and he became the president. So if that motherfucker can do it.
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Jason
It's like if there's not anymore Americans held that Donald Trump because the president like.
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Moises
That, that's a dumb ass that actually did it. But he's actually pretty intelligent. At the same time. I don't support Donald Trump just saying.
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Rances
Okay, so I was moving like crazy because it's coded how it is. I would still check and see. I can see his breath.
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Jason
It's so clean here.
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Moises
If I'm like shivering.
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Rances
But you know, I wanted to to hit on that point that you just you just hit on because is easy to talk about is easy to say. Yeah just believe in yourself and all that stuff. But like when you're in it, when you're in that trench, like for example, you, when, when you were like, yo, I want to, I want to get my own place, but it's impossible.
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Rances
Like you were in that mindset, you're like, and I'm like, What are you talking about? Is impossible to talk to people. And you're like, No, because credit, they're going to run my credit.
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Moises
And but to my point, the support system, right, like someone that's challenging your way of thinking. Yeah. Without that, yeah. If you weren't, they're saying, listen bro, that's all bullshit and that there is a possibility that there is a way, then the idea of challenging those thoughts don't exist. So to my point is, if you had the support system, if you had the people that you know will take care of you and give you the knowledge and information to seek the solutions, then a career change is possible.
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Moises
And I think it can happen whenever you're willing to go through the shit to make it happen.
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Jason
But what about when you don't have a support system?
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Rances
That's one. That's when it gets challenging. And to be honest, like, that's that's one of my so I was talking to it to the same friends, right. And one of them is a therapist and she's, she's talking about like how she has to have she it's all virtual. She has out seven calls a day with patients. It's like back to back to back to back.
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Rances
Like she'd say, all you dealing with is like these horrible, traumatic stories of people that are in that space. Right. And with that repetition, what happens for her is her view on life goes in that same direction. Yeah, right. So there's a whole thing of like that learned helplessness that happens when you don't have the support. So how is it possible to gain support or whatever?
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Rances
And it goes back to that fundamental skill, which is relationships, right? When you when you can have that perspective of hope. And I think that's that's the hardest part is not even like it's not even the support because there are resources. There are there are there are how you go on meetup.com and see like, oh, let's meet up with with these people and connect with people and build relationships.
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Rances
It's the hope to to believe that something better is out there. That's something that that you can affect and you can empower. And I think that's that's the biggest thing that always gets destroyed in organizations and in families, in the perspective of hope, once I hope gets lost. Like, it's like, what's the point? What is your health, love, life, spirituality, career, finances all have in common?
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Rances
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