Truth Behind Time-Management: Are You Ready to Change Your Life?
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The gang tackles Time Management and we start off by getting on Rances for being over 40 mins late.
We then dive into all the different tools Rances uses to help with his Neurodivergence.
Mo and Jay also challenge the idea of using these tools because it could be seen as a crutch for those who struggle with conceptualizing time.
Jay talks about being a black belt in procrastination because of his former job and the guys explain that the dopamine rush of getting something done in a time crunch can def be the cause of that.
Mo gets into the anxiety of having a bunch of stuff to do and how it can affect what prioritizing his tasks.
Towards the end we get into how a purpose to actually take on the process of time management.
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Timestamps
0:00 - Mindset U Intro
0:30 - Time Management Intro
5:19 - What is Time Management
8:49 - Tools for those who need it
11:20 - Tools of freedom or debilitating?
17:50 - Mental handicap vs physical handicap?
24:48 - Procrastination, Prioritizing and why we struggle
32:31 - Purpose and Priority help you plan for the long term
37:43 - Why do you lack the skill for time management
41:50 - Summary
45:56 - Tell us your thoughts https://forms.gle/aqLERqWV4H1BqDB79
Transcript
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Jason
There's no rules on this Bitch Okay. So we're going to talk about whatever you want, whatever we want, because we're going to spin it and let you all know what we're going to talk about for 15 minutes. I'm going to give you rapid fire stuff. There are the coaches on the everyday guy. I'm going to challenge them because who the fuck are they to tell me what to do?
00:00:17:26 - 00:00:28:19
Jason
They don't know me. They do know me. Known me for a really long time. But that's not the point. The point is, we're here to give you guys a fun podcast and hopefully you learn some chill on the way.
00:00:30:28 - 00:00:51:24
Jason
All right. And we're like, uh, about 40 minutes later than we said, and it's thank God we're talking about today's topic, which is time management. I thought I had a black belt in procrastination. Turns out Rances is right there with me. You ever saw guys.
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Rances
Nothing much here behind on my whole day.
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Jason
behind on Your whole day. What a surprise. What a surprise. Which is fucking rain. This weather doesn't help anything either. It just. It's. It's not a good source of motivation. So.
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Rances
Nah.
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Jason
You Get a fucking pass.
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Rances
Nah the weather doesn't. Doesn't give. Give the excuse for it.
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Moises
So then why are we late?
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Rances
Yeah. So? I think so. Little background is Jana recorded this episode before and one of the the party tricks that was lost was when we were like, how long do we think we've been on? Right. Yeah. And I said, I don't know. Like I said, like 10 minutes or something. Yeah. Jay was like 37 minutes and it was like, almost on the money.
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Rances
So that is the root cause of me being late. I swear to God, I thought it was 4:00.
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Jason
I'm so happy you don't fucking do drugs. You fucking worst. The worst. You have all the gadgets in the fucking world in your house that tells you how do.
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Moises
How you fuck that up? You got to watch. You got a cell phone, you got Google that tells you every answer possible. And then you you still come 45 minutes late. I don't understand.
00:02:15:18 - 00:02:40:09
Rances
I wasnt At home. I was. And that's why I had said, like in the evening, I'll be available. Yeah. Where my wife and I, you know, we have a little side hobby of interior decoration. And we were at Lisa's and I was in the process of putting up wallpaper. I was on the fifth sheet putting up wallpaper. And Paola goes, Babe, don't you have a podcast today?
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Rances
I'm like, Yeah, that's later. You know, look at the time, and then I see your messages. And that's when I said, Guys, i’m running late.
00:02:48:16 - 00:03:08:17
Jason
After he's already he's already 20 minutes late, guys, by the way, not gonna be here for like another 20 minutes. Okay. Well, good thing today's episode is about time management, which we like you said.
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Moises
We probably should we probably shouldn't ask Rances for advice on Time management.
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Jason
Yeah, I think Rances should be taking advice on time management.
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Moises
Rances, we're going to Coach you
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Moises
through time management because you suck.
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Rances
I give you that. And I also raise you that because I suck at it is why I have so many ways to manage my time.
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Moises
Yeah, no, no, you're right. Well, we'll get your suggestions For tools
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Jason
and then we'll tell everybody to do that.
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Moises
And then
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Jason
becausae it Makes no sense.
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Rances
All right. Can I can I ask a quick question, to Mo Can you share your level of judgment that you have for my tardiness or people in general tardiness?
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Moises
It’s not a it's not a judgment. It's a pet fucking peeve, right? It's annoying.
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Moises
We all agreed.
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Rances
To be.
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Moises
A me at one time. We like Jay even suggested 630. To give you room
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Jason
I think thats really the funny part, you're like Nah we don’t need to.
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Moises
And your Like, Nah we're good at 6:00 and like and I just it's just an annoyance. It's not a judgment. It's just is.
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Moises
Just sucks at
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Jason
Makes me get high
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Moises
Time.
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Moises
Management. And I was like, I even put 615 as the start time. It was like, you know, Rances is probably going to be 15 minutes late. No, it was 45. I was completely off
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Jason
Yeah. So this is episode number 62 guys just everybody knows it's episode 62. This is part two of time management, which is really part one because nobody's ever going to see the other one because I don't know how to press the record button when we're in person. So I'll take full responsibility for that one. Um, Rances can talk about all the ways he ignores the little things he sets up for time management, and I think that'll be a fun thing to start with.
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Jason
I don't know why he considers of red flags that he avoids, but, you know, hey, this is what this is all about, learning about each other and let's start. Like I said before, I'm a black belt and procrastination time management is never really my best friend by I'm punctual. So I'll give you I'll say that for myself, I guess for the most part.
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Jason
But I would love to know what your guy's style is. We already know Rances style on time in his here. Yeah, but. Mo, let's talk about you.
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Moises
Well, I mean, so, first of all, we need to, I guess, define what time management is because it's, like you said, punctuality doesn't necessarily mean that you're managing time. Well, yeah, because you can be punctual. And then just like, sit around and not do shit for the whole day and just be on time somewhere. Yeah. So I think let's create like a standard of what time management is.
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Jason
Fair enough.
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Rances
Yeah, I agree with that because I can say the opposite for me, I'm not punctual.
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Jason
So who has the definition of time management then? You fucking smarty pants.
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Moises
I'll let Rances go first.
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Rances
Definition of time management. My personal definition or so the way I see it. And I'll give it a Rances answer, which is We're here on Earth.
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Moises
Wait, wait, just let's put a time frame on this.
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Jason
You have.
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Moises
Because Rances has No Conceptualization of time
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Jason
You need to Manage your time on this story. Okay?
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Rances
Okay.
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Jason
it’s 4 minutes tops.
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Rances
How about you guys shut it so I can speak? Because it's already 2 minutes gone. So we're here on Earth for a certain period of time, our lives, and we're still. What?
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Moises
it is just Jays face man, He's alreadfy confused.
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Rances
So we're here for a same period of time, which.
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Jason
i need to immediately smoke. Sorry. Continue. I sorry interrupted you. Sorry, interrupted. Continue. I'm going to shut the fuck up. Go. You got 4 minutes.
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Rances
All right. So for me, it's about the time that we spent here on Earth how. How we're using our time, how we're passing the time. And for me, like, a big thing important in my life is legacy and what we're leaving behind. So for me, time management talks directly on to the time that we're here on Earth and how we're managing to get the most out of life.
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Rances
That's what time management means for me.
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Moises
Hmm.Okay.
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Jason
now, how do you utilize that?
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Rances
In what terms?
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Jason
Whatever the fuck it is. Shit. You just told me about what you think time management is. I need you to explain.
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Rances
What’s the practical?Like? How does it look in practice?
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Jason
It's like, how do you how do you practice it?
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Rances
So for me, it's like Moises was talking about all the calendar reminders and everything like that. So number one is your absolutely right. I have very low conceptualization of time and using a calendar allows me to conceptualize a time a lot better because I get to see a visual representation of what time looks like, which is blocks on the calendar.
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Rances
And so when I look at my day like that, I stack up activities as to what I'm going to do in order to make my time most efficient based off of my intention. What am I trying to achieve? So what are the actions that I'm taking today that are helping me achieve that? And that's how it looks in practice.
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Jason
My next question for you is why do you ignore, ignore, ignore all these all these schedules do you put on your.
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Rances
So I don't I don't ignore it in a typical situation. And I know. All right. You guys are are having a laugh but in the sense of on the majority of the things that that gets put on on me, you can always count that I'm going to get those things done. I'm going to follow through. So I am a man of my word on everything outside of the punctuality thing.
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Rances
So there's that kind of dichotomy of it.
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Jason
You're 100% right. It's just fun to tease you, right? I'm having a laugh. I'm having a hard year. But okay. So here's I guess my next question for you and this is so, you know, I was joking. I'm like, oh, like, what happens when you ignore, you know, like whatever you have, you whatever sets, like whatever steps you have set up to remind yourself with whatever you have to do during the day to manage your time.
00:10:03:00 - 00:10:21:16
Jason
Now, what are ways like what are ways to it's like setting reminders and shit, like that for like if you like, oh shit. Like I haven't looked at my phone for a minute kind of thing. Like, you know, for example, like for today, aside from not being punctual, like are there other ways to have to have like fail switches?
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Jason
I guess.
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Rances
So. For me and again for me it's like the lack of conceptualization of time. I try to use as many triggers as possible. So like I wear a smartwatch and I keep it on. Like I keep it on on vibrate and stuff where my wife wears a smartwatch and she has it on mute. I get, you know, notifications come in.
00:10:41:18 - 00:11:06:01
Rances
But for me, I keep it on because that's when I realized like, buzz, oh, I got a notification. This means something's going up. Yeah. And again, today is a perfect representation of that. I was putting up a wallpaper, so my hands are getting full of glue and stuff like that. So I have the watch off so I'm don't have any stimuli that's telling me, hey, this is the time, this is where you have to move on next.
00:11:06:02 - 00:11:10:08
Rances
So when I unplug in that way.
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Jason
It's also fun to give you shit because I'm also the guy who didn't put Google Calendar on his phone until like three weeks ago.
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Moises
So wouldn’t that, like I would make an argument that those tools can be debilitating at the same time.
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Jason
Handicap yourself.
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Moises
Exactly like I see Rances go in the car and whenever we need to travel somewhere like, say, the location of our business, he puts the GPS on. And to me it's just like, why do you need the GPS to a place that we already know where we're going, which is like half a mile away? And these tools sometimes... what?
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Jason
Oh, no, continue.
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Moises
Well, I think for for that purpose, more specifically, it's to understand the amount of time that it would take to get from point A to point B, which I get it. But some of these other tools like the calendars and, you know, the reminders I think can be debilitating. At the same time, there has to be a middle point where you can look outside and you can look at the sun and you can look at, you know, the sky and understand what time it is so that you're saying, you know, it's probably around five, 6:00.
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Moises
Let me let me check my phone. Let me check my watch and see if I that's accurate so I can get to the next place or where I have to be.
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Jason
I like to see like part Native American in that scenario, to understand.
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Moises
well I mean.
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Moises
I mean, I'm not far off
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Jason
Pocahontas
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Moises
Huberman fucking talks about it. He talks about like.
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Jason
Yea, the guys a fucking genius though.
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Moises
Well, I'm learning from him. I'm applying these tools.
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Moises
In the sense of like if you look at your dogs, right, and your animals in your house, they understand when the sun goes, they understand when it's morning without using the clock or anything. So like, how are we different? So like they understand the point of the day, they know exactly when they're supposed to eat and they'll start barking at you or start, you know, making ruckus.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Moises
And that's you know, that's also important. I think sometimes when you utilize the tools too much is it can throw that off and it's like, how do you find the balance? How do you find medium?
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Rances
So what would I say to that is because this goes into the realm of this is this is a known thing, right? With someone who's neurodivergent, you're going to have the challenges with time management, with time awareness. It's a it's a studied thing. So coming from that perspective, it's like it's like suggesting almost like someone that is using a wheelchair.
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Rances
It's like, you know, I think that wheelchair is making you weaker and unable. It's it's because of this this limitation that you need to use these assistance where without these assistance and Moises, you know this like you every time we sit together and I project how long something is going to take me, you're like, No, bro, it's going to tell you X amount, right?
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Rances
And that has nothing to do with like using the tools or whatever time to measure time. It has to do with just how I see actions happening. My, the, the aspect of driving to location that's a huge thing because for me, the conceptualizing the time to get to a place without seeing a visual representation like it doesn't exist in my mind, in my frame of reference, it doesn't exist.
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Rances
And I'm like, Oh, I have to be there at noon, so I'll leave at noon unless I stop and think. I'm like, Wait, that's wrong, right? So like the practice of, of going through all of that is like, okay, so I have to think about this thing and I look at it again, turn it into a reference of block timing and I use that, apply that.
00:15:04:06 - 00:15:30:15
Rances
So I have to translate into the language in which it makes sense to me and these tools allow that to happen to me. Now I can agree with you that the tools can become overwhelming, right? Because you have all this kind of external stimulus to keep track. And that's that's part of the the issues, because it's like the way that I function in the world.
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Rances
It's not. It doesn't correlate as well with how the typical person functions in the world. So there's our challenge. And basically the way I see is I got as my challenge to carry.
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Moises
But what do you argue to that? Like you're not developing the awareness because of these tools. So if you're always using the tools, then what are the practices that you use to develop awareness around time conceptualization?
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Rances
So I put it to you this way. I had about 26 years of practicing, trying to become aware of the time and just beating it, trying to get better at managing the time with no improvement. Like I was late through my entire school career. Like so late that between my wife and I, when we started dating or 16 years old, I would be like, I'll pick you up to go to school.
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Rances
And she used to get to school an hour and a half early for no fucking reason whatsoever. And in the morning I'll be late and she'll be pissed. And then I'm driving next year, like get in the car, like, No, I'm walking, fuck you. And when I would walk in the school with her, she got so pissed because the front office would be like, Hey Rances, good morning.
00:16:55:18 - 00:17:10:08
Rances
Don't worry about I just go to class because it was so expected. It's like, you know, this guy just has so many detentions for being late that it doesn't even fucking matter. It’s part of his schedule. So what I, what I'm saying with is that.
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Rances
It's.
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Rances
What these tools have allowed me to do is to have to adaptation that is actually functional at a certain level as opposed to in the past it was just like not functional at all. So it goes to me again, it goes into that, that wheelchair idea is like, yeah, you give you, you, you build a storefront where a few steps to go up and you say, Nah everyone should be able to make it up two steps so a person in a wheelchair can jump off of it and crawl their way up the steps and say, Yeah, that's getting them stronger and everything, but is that efficient?
00:17:47:12 - 00:17:50:10
Rances
Is that what we want as the standard or is.
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Jason
The most wild comparison I've ever heard in my life.
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Rances
Is it.
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Moises
I think it...
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Jason
From being late. What a wiled thing, you can't use your legs crawl up those stairs.
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Rances
No, because. So wait, this is this is like a sensitive topic.
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Moises
It can be dismissive of his neurodivergence like.
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Jason
No, I’m not being dismissive of your neurodivergence I just think it's a it's a the imagery is funny to me when it's like you with somebody who can't use your legs compared to having trouble being on time.
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Rances
Well, that, that's, that's the concept here because we, we view mental health as a thing because we can't visually see it. We view challenges and disabilities that come from the lack of of physical context. We view them as like, oh, they're not as as, you know, you can't compare to some of our legs. It's like, well, someone's brain is set up entirely different.
00:18:46:11 - 00:18:51:16
Rances
So it is the disability in the same factor. So it's not to me, it's not a wild comparison.
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Jason
And it's just funny to me. You're right. I'm sorry, buddy. You're neurodivergent and I've got to respect it. If you can't tell time, you know what? That's fine. It. There's other things you really. I mean, I don't I don't think.
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Moises
Jake I don't think Jase is wrong either for making that comparison. I, I do agree that is, I, I do agree to me it feels like a wild analogy in the sense that.
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Moises
You.
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Moises
Right now I get you branches and I say, all right, yeah, he does have this neuro divergence, which then makes him, you know, late or he doesn't understand how to basically tell time in the moment when he's in the present moment at the same time. I would argue too, I was like, okay, so in high school you did try these things.
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Moises
You had no idea that you were neurodivergent at that time. You knew you were different. So like with the information that you have now, do you think it's possible to train the awareness to be able to get better at time without the use of tools.
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Jason
Maybe be like Flavor Flav.
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Moises
Because like someone is like what happen?
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Jason
That, maybe be like Flavor Flav and you put like a clock around your neck.
00:20:09:16 - 00:20:10:14
You know, no.
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Jason
More watches you have the better
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Moises
what I'm saying is like a person with a wheelchair who is not able to walk like, yes, we can see that. We can understand that person is is not able to physically move their legs. My argument now is, well, you have the awareness and you have more knowledge now than you did previously back then. So is it possible to train that to get better at that aspect?
00:20:38:13 - 00:20:54:06
Moises
Will you still have this this ability or this? I don't know what to call it. This restriction. Yeah. You always were like, that's always going to be there, that's for sure. You're going to have to work ten times harder.
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Rances
So I think that absolutely. Because number one is like I believe in adaptability. Right? I believe that we can improve, you know, like reading, for example. It's something that for me innately is very challenging and I've improved my reading dramatically where I wouldn't call it fast by no means, but it's.
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Jason
Still better than Floyd Mayweather.
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Rances
If Yeah.
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Rances
Now what I say to that is like, yes, that improvement is possible. The work that goes behind that improvement is still basically dragging an anchor when you're competing, someone else that's just rolling downhill, right? So it's like, yes, I can get better. Yes, I can, I can, I can take a hourglass, flip it over and try to calculate, okay, this is what, you know, a minute feels like.
00:22:12:21 - 00:22:35:20
Rances
Got it. You know, I can do all of that and get better at that process. And in the same aspect, I can use tools to help me kind of level the playing field and be able to, to, to pass time in the same manner or not even in the same manner, but closer to the same manner as the typical person.
00:22:36:17 - 00:22:42:28
Rances
So it's like it's where you're, you're, you're putting the efforts in, in my opinion.
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Moises
So that I agree with and this is where I say I kind of agree with Jay's kind of comparisons. And it is a little wild because like a person in a wheelchair doesn't have that opportunity right? Like a person in a wheelchair can say, I'm going to focus on my legs and move the right one. If he's, you.
00:22:58:01 - 00:23:17:24
Rances
Know, the person the person in a wheelchair, like, have you guys ever seen a homeless person, right. That doesn't have a wheelchair and they don't have legs. They're crawling on their arm swinging. So they're figuring out a way to get around. But we wouldn't say that a wheelchair wouldn’t be better for them? So that to me is the same thing.
00:23:17:24 - 00:23:32:03
Rances
It's like, yes, I'm that's what I said. The anchors, I'm figuring out how to get around it by putting in all this extra effort. But the tool, like the wheelchair, the tools are going to help me get around more fluidly.
00:23:32:03 - 00:23:32:10
Moises
Hmm.
00:23:33:21 - 00:23:38:29
Jason
I spoke a little bit more to agree with that.
00:23:38:29 - 00:23:41:10
Rances
You don’t have to agree. I mean...
00:23:41:11 - 00:24:08:16
Jason
no, no But to to to wrap my head around the more. So just to wrap my head around what you just said. And I hear you, too. I understand it. And I still goes back to the image of it, still makes me giggle. And that's what makes it while to me in that there's nothing that's going to change that. But we'll we could just change the topic for just a quick second and talk about where you could find us, because you can find us on a whole bunch of different places and you can have a whole bunch of apps to help you.
00:24:08:16 - 00:24:21:08
Jason
Remind you that we come out every Friday with a new podcast on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts and pretty much everywhere else that you can find a podcast.
00:24:21:27 - 00:24:46:24
Rances
So you can find us on our website VidaProject.com or you can straight up search Mindset U on YouTube on because on YouTube now it has a podcast option or on any podcast sources Mindset U, so VidaProject is our company Mindset U is our podcast and that's the the correlation between those two names.
00:24:46:24 - 00:25:06:29
Jason
That's right. And to switch gears off it, now that we're done picking on Rances for the first 24 minutes of this podcast, we can pick on me. And I would like to talk about procrastination because boy, am I good at it and boy, do I love it. It's the longest relationship I've ever had with something. And it's beautiful. Okay.
00:25:07:13 - 00:25:08:13
Moises
So why do you procrastinate?
00:25:09:06 - 00:25:29:10
Jason
I procrastinate for several reasons, because I think it goes back to like the for me, it goes back to working in news where it was. It's not so much procrastination, but I got so used to getting stuff done at a very quick deadline that you didn't have actual time to set up like you couldn't really you had to just get it done kind of thing.
00:25:29:10 - 00:26:03:19
Jason
And it's just “got it done with 20 seconds left, thank god” I think and I think I got addicted to the thrill of chasing like of beating a deadline now like, oh yeah, I don't do my best work when I chase a deadline and that's sometimes it works and sometimes it bites in the fucking ass and I'll love to hear from you guys about ways, aside from just saying, don't fucking do that, but ways to help change that slowly but surely, because apparently we're all neurodivergent in all our own ways.
00:26:04:03 - 00:26:08:25
Jason
and mines procrastination.
00:26:08:25 - 00:26:39:23
Rances
So I think before we go into it, I think there's an interesting concept here that I would like to touch upon where, you know, we talked about me with Time Manager rather punctuality. Jay With procrastination. Mo Is there anything with time enjoyment that you or challenge with before we dove into the procrastination concept?
00:26:41:11 - 00:27:07:08
Moises
I think I think the one thing that becomes challenging is more so it's not so much procrastination, but I guess it's like dealing with the anxiety or the setting priorities of like what is the most important thing to work on and getting over that can cause procrastination as well. So like I deal with it but not in the same, not with the same intent.
00:27:07:15 - 00:27:10:24
Moises
I don't get a rush from waiting for the last thing. It's more like, Oh.
00:27:11:09 - 00:27:26:05
Jason
It's not like I'm like, Oh yeah. But it's like when I get it done, like I got it done with like 5 minutes, to spare i’m the fucking man. Like, that kind of thing, I think is like the college kid in me still. That's a fucking get that paper in one day bruh, right before it was due. and got an A
00:27:26:05 - 00:27:26:29
Rances
So,
00:27:27:27 - 00:27:57:05
Rances
You know, I'm so glad that you said that, Mo, because I think I think it's also connects from all different angles. Jay In my opinion, that concept of procrastination, the how you described it, has to do with the dopamine, right? Where dopamine is, the chemical that motivates us, right? So we're getting dopamine hits to push us to keep doing the thing.
00:27:57:28 - 00:28:29:17
Rances
And like you mentioned in news, everything was last minute. Everything was high pressure, high anxiety and the work that you needed to put out in that last minute format had a lot to do with you being then recognized as like, Hey, you're moving up because you're hitting these points. You're you're able to handle this pressure, which just created kind of this environment that supported this ability to be late.
00:28:29:17 - 00:28:53:24
Rances
So now, like your dopamine is hardwired with this and it is a, a feel good thing that comes along with like, oh, I'm a push it to the very end, very end, very end I don't think is in your awareness of like I'm doing this to, to, to get this point, but it's like you're almost wired to, to get that dopamine hit by waiting to the last minute.
00:28:54:14 - 00:29:14:27
Moises
But furthermore, you get dopamine. Dopamine hits faster by doing other things that give you the dopamine. So like instead of actually doing the work that you're supposed to do, that would be do in 3 hours, let me go and watch this TV show or let me go eat this thing because you get the dopamine. Now versus having to wait, but you still get the dopamine if you finish the work.
00:29:14:27 - 00:29:21:26
Moises
So you're just you're just choosing what hit what type of dopamine to receive first.
00:29:22:16 - 00:29:39:04
Rances
I think that's a that's a that's a great point. There was a one post more. I think I had shared it with you about this. This guy who did basically a detox of dopamine. So he removed all
00:29:39:24 - 00:30:03:27
Rances
Things that give you dopamine. So he doesn't use a phone. He doesn't use a TV at all. He doesn't use anything, you know, basically. Well, eating right. He does have to do that. But basically he he his goal was to make his life as boring as possible, which means that you're not getting any dopamine hits on any format.
00:30:04:24 - 00:30:13:14
Rances
So what he would do is work, right? He's he was entrepreneur, so he would sit down and work on his business management.
00:30:13:23 - 00:30:16:28
Please put your pajamas on, find your phones and put them to charge, Emma Put your Chromebook to charge.
00:30:17:09 - 00:30:22:03
Jason
And there's that technology again.
00:30:24:08 - 00:30:25:19
Rances
Actually let me Mute Google.
00:30:29:17 - 00:30:32:26
The Mics off.
00:30:33:18 - 00:30:35:19
Rances
Actually Yeah, that's that's.
00:30:35:19 - 00:30:36:14
Jason
We're keeping that in.
00:30:36:23 - 00:30:37:00
Rances
Yeah.
00:30:37:20 - 00:30:55:09
Rances
That's that's to that point. Like it's a Moises point. Like I have all these technologies, my whole house is telling me, hey, it's time to do this, hey, it's hard to do that. But so anyways, back to the story of the individual. He basically made his life boring. So he's not getting any dopamine hits and he's an entrepreneur.
00:30:55:09 - 00:31:20:28
Rances
So then when he would work, he started actually getting dopamine hits by simply doing work, right? So every time he would sit down and do work, that was the only stimuli that he would get. Otherwise he'll be bored, so then he'll be encouraged to do more work. And then he started moving faster and his work and getting more productive because that became the stimuli for dopamine.
00:31:20:28 - 00:31:38:28
Rances
So like it gives you an insight as to like Moises said, like there's so many things that we, we rather do because they feel good, because they literally give us hope. All right. Like right now, your dog right Indie on your lap, that's giving you dopamine hits.
00:31:39:06 - 00:31:40:02
Jason
Yes it is
00:31:40:22 - 00:31:59:19
Rances
So like all of these all of these things in our life that is competing for what's the best dopamine, what tastes the best. And then when we have, like the work that's like that's not going to give me much dopamine until it's like, exciting. And so it's like, boom, I finish on time and now you .
00:31:59:19 - 00:32:19:02
Jason
I never Want to take a nap more than before. I have to do something now. Like I could totally nap for like 25 minutes right now. I could totally bust out this nap and other times when I don't need to nap ever, if I have to do something, nap is needed. I have to it has to happen or I have to talk myself into it.
00:32:19:02 - 00:32:45:09
Rances
Absolutely. And then Mo with how would you describe like because it's different than Jay with procrastination. You said for you it's more like priority. So how would you describe the the opposite? When you are prioritizing, you have things in order. Like what's the difference in terms of you taking action?
00:32:46:17 - 00:33:07:17
Moises
Well, I mean, it's it's more it's not as an emotional decision in the sense of like it's already once I have like so one of the things that I've been doing a lot lately that one of the tools that we've been using together was like motion AI, where basically you put your To Do’s in there and based on your calendar, it fits it into these spots for you.
00:33:07:17 - 00:33:34:14
Moises
So with that, it takes away the the opportunity for other dopamine hits. So if you don't set your day, if you don't establish your day, then you're going to look for opportunities for more for bigger rewards. So what happens is when you don't plan it and you don't have priorities, you then have to go through your head or through your mind and look for which is going to give you the biggest reward.
00:33:34:21 - 00:33:52:15
Moises
And sometimes these tasks, you may do something now and the reward may come six months from now, a year from now. So why work on it? All right. So then what happens is you get you put that off, you put that off, you put that off, you put that off to the moment comes the right moment comes for you.
00:33:52:15 - 00:34:13:08
Moises
There's like, no, if I do this now, then I get the biggest reward and it isn't to say that that's a good or bad thing. It just sometimes it can it can throw off your plans or your vision of where you want your life to go. So going back to like Rances’ thing is like, I understand where I want my life to go, so therefore I know how to prioritize.
00:34:13:08 - 00:34:46:15
Moises
Therefore I know how to use my time or how to manage my time by putting these tasks in the right place. One of the ways that I've done it, and I think I can speak, for Rances as well as the motion ai that's been a huge help because I just like list things. I was like, I know if I work on this task now, I may not see the rewards till next year, but I know that I'm working on it now and I get that takes away the space to do anything else, like, you know, watch Netflix or, you know, take a nap or, you know, go do something else and give myself room for
00:34:46:15 - 00:34:50:04
Moises
that as well. But I try to minimize it as much as possible.
00:34:51:20 - 00:35:14:19
Rances
So I think that touches on another key point here, which is intention, right. You mentioned like where am I trying to take my life and like all these tools or whatever, like even the motion Ai might Mo you and I have spoken about this where it's like, this is a great tool. It'll do this and this and this for you.
00:35:15:16 - 00:35:43:27
Rances
But if you don't understand the basics of intentions and where you want to take your life, it all means nothing is just noise. And I think that's that's the overwhelm part. Where is the busy, busy, busy. But where are you going with all this busyness like that needs to have balance, that needs to be understood. It's like I'm doing this now because I'm trying to take my life this way now there's motivation.
00:35:43:27 - 00:35:56:23
Rances
Now there's there's purpose behind you doing this. And then that's when you can now calibrate your, your dopamine to, to be in tune with what you're doing in the day because you're, you have this vision of where you're going.
00:35:58:09 - 00:36:14:28
Moises
Yeah, I'm sure. Jay You're going through that right now with, with, uh, the first, like first amateur fight you're going into like your decision making behind that vision or that goal is it's a lot more curated. Sure, you have it way more planned out than.
00:36:15:10 - 00:36:40:13
Jason
I've never had more planned out for anything else in my fucking life. Then when it comes to the gym it's not even, It's I think the for me it's, it's just I really like training and this gives me a purpose to like really push training. I think that's the easiest way to put it. A When I'm going to cut out the 45 minute speech I just gave you.
00:36:40:13 - 00:37:01:10
Jason
But yeah, it's just I really enjoy the act of training it, having like a regimen because I'm somebody who isn't necessarily known for having a regimen. I mean, I just started using Google Calendar not too long ago, and other than that, actually it's my calendar. But in our other meetings we always joked that you would hear me yell to Ashley, What are we doing on such and such date?
00:37:02:11 - 00:37:03:00
Jason
And that's why.
00:37:03:09 - 00:37:05:23
Moises
You have to hand your handicap to you're in a wheelchair as.
00:37:05:23 - 00:37:12:13
Jason
Well. Oh, I'm handicapped in so many ways. I’m right there with Rances, I need that ramp.
00:37:12:26 - 00:37:28:23
Moises
But you want to know what's funny that like I was like that too before my Rances and it was these tools that he introduced me to. And I feel like Rances is on the other side of the like like the spectrum, like he's on the extreme side and like, I don't want to be like that, so I'm going to go a little bit towards the middle.
00:37:30:11 - 00:37:31:07
Rances
But I mean.
00:37:31:27 - 00:37:32:11
Rances
Go ahead Jay...
00:37:32:25 - 00:37:43:03
Jason
Oh, no, no. I'll just say it's you're right there. It's, it's trying to find that middle ground and, and I'm stubborn, so it's just a very slow process. Like I just got Google Calendar.
00:37:44:12 - 00:38:04:15
Rances
What I was going to say was that like because of number one is like entrepreneurship to me is a big aspect of learning how to manage your time. Because when you're, you know, you go to school and school, manages your time, tells you when to move. There's a bell that goes on to go to the when you go to college, you get a little bit more freedom.
00:38:04:15 - 00:38:28:01
Rances
But it's still managing your time. You got this class at this time and then you go to the workforce and in work you go. And that's a typical job. 9 to 5 you do, your time is managed all the time. So the transition to entrepreneurship means that you have to manage every aspect of it. And it's hard as hell because the first thing you do is like, I don't know what to do, who's going to tell me?
00:38:28:14 - 00:38:47:02
Rances
So you have to figure that out. So for me, like learning how to manage my time with the tools and however I had to figure it out has a lot to do with like just being in the deep end and not having like support or anything like that, just figuring it out. And then also you guys know, I read tons of books.
00:38:47:26 - 00:39:05:03
Rances
It was a whole phase where like for a whole year I was reading different time management books and started coming up with the whole idea and concepts and everything. So coaching and teaching my clients on how to do time management, not because I'm the greatest at it, but because I've had to go so deep into learning it.
00:39:05:03 - 00:39:35:00
Moises
I think the other aspect of that too like to build on top of what Rances said is when as an entrepreneur, procrastination becomes even bigger because of the failure that's behind it. Like you're so afraid of the failure, so you rather not do the task so that you don't have to deal with the outcome. So if you never did the task and nothing happened, so therefore you didn't fail.
00:39:35:00 - 00:39:49:11
Moises
And that's what happens a lot of the times entrepreneurs are like, Yeah, yeah, I'm going to do this thing. And you hear a lot of people say, I'm going to talk, I'm going to make this podcast, and they just never do it. They never do it because they're afraid of the failure. And then they're like, Oh, I just don't have the time.
00:39:49:11 - 00:40:08:20
Moises
Nah it’s bullshit. You do have the time. You just you just the priority, the intention, the purpose, all of that is not there. So therefore you procrastinate because you're afraid of failure. And I learned that when I first went into business with ranches, it was like I would find myself like making phone calls and trying to make sales.
00:40:08:20 - 00:40:26:20
Moises
It was like the fear behind the rejection, you know, the fear behind putting out a new product or new service or putting myself out on social media or doing videos or any of those things all led to the procrastination because it was just failure. Once you get over that failure, then you're like, okay, let me just do a bunch of shit.
00:40:26:20 - 00:40:43:07
Moises
And then when you start doing a bunch of shit, you can be like, I'm a mess. And then that's when you're ready for time management and all the tools that Rances talks about. Until then, when we see a person like I need help with time management, it's like, for what? What's the purpose? If they don't have one? We're like, Nah, like, you're not even there.
00:40:43:27 - 00:40:55:00
Moises
It's these tools don't make it don't matter for you. I think like why we told you Google calendars is like I just got a little bit of a purpose for this because we actually have a podcast.
00:40:55:07 - 00:40:57:10
Jason
And I'm trying to get into calender now
00:40:57:10 - 00:41:03:27
Moises
I guess we should make day, look at a calendar and actually use scheduled all the dates out. And I was like.
00:41:03:27 - 00:41:12:07
Jason
I know I hate you guys making me grow personally. I don't enjoy this. I like being stuck in my ways.
00:41:12:07 - 00:41:13:06
Jason
So much simpler.
00:41:14:15 - 00:41:32:01
Rances
I remember just to talk about Jay's stubbornness for a second. I remember when I was in college and I don't know how we met when I was summer or something like that. We met up with him time and I was like, Oh yo, have you seen Super Size Me? And you're like, Yeah, I was eating McDonald's while watching it. And
00:41:32:03 - 00:41:37:01
Rances
Said to me, That's like, that's. Jay.
00:41:37:01 - 00:41:42:06
Jason
Yeah, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in the Moreno household.
00:41:42:06 - 00:41:56:10
Rances
So you guys, just to recap, kind of like what we talked about, time management, MO, you're great at this and taking a bunch of information and put in conceptualized manner. Want to give it a shot?
00:41:56:27 - 00:42:24:26
Moises
Sure. So Rances is comparable to a man in a wheelchair. So we started with that now. But seriously, I think one of the like the takeaways, if we're going to talk about takeaways here, I think if you struggle with time management, then using tools are going to be a vital like support tool for you as an individual. And if you need help with that, just reach out to Rances.
00:42:24:26 - 00:42:50:19
Moises
Rances got all the tools in the world for you to use, but I think before that is clarifying a vision and an intention or purpose as to why you should become more productive, not just because you feel you have to or because you feel that you're not productive. That's not enough evidence to support that. I think it's more about what do you want your life to look like and what are the skills you're going to need to develop to get there.
00:42:50:19 - 00:42:58:10
Moises
Once you figure that out, then I think time management becomes the next step. I don't know that worked out that I do a good job.
00:42:59:03 - 00:43:30:19
Rances
Great job. And you made me think of something. I think maybe for this podcast we'll add the link to the ten year vision. So we have this survey that we created that is for creating a ten year vision for yourself in different sections of your life. You can go through it and save your stuff through Google, take your time filling it out, and it kind of helps you create that purpose and vision for your life, which then helps you then get to the next step of, Okay, I need to now become active in creating this vision, which is time management.
00:43:31:21 - 00:43:38:16
Jason
That's true. And if you're like me and you probably are going to do any of that, Start with just using Google calendar. I’m telling you it works. It helps.
00:43:38:17 - 00:43:40:12
Moises
Does It truly?
00:43:41:02 - 00:43:49:08
Jason
It does. It does because now it's it forces me to look at something like, oh, yeah, we have to L10 at this time. Oh, we have this to do. Oh, you know, that, that kind of thing.
00:43:49:24 - 00:43:52:10
Moises
So the only use it with, with the stuff with VidaProject.
00:43:52:24 - 00:43:54:02
Jason
Oh yeah.
00:43:54:02 - 00:43:57:15
Moises
You don't use it with like your girl.
00:43:57:15 - 00:44:04:11
Jason
She's the only person I see aside from people at the gym like constant communication with her.
00:44:06:00 - 00:44:07:10
Moises
You're around each other often.
00:44:08:01 - 00:44:12:21
Jason
All the time. If I'm home and she's like, Yeah, all the time.
00:44:12:21 - 00:44:18:02
Moises
Actually Rances, You're home with your wife pretty often now too. You guys still communicate through the calendar?
00:44:18:26 - 00:44:19:23
Rances
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:44:20:17 - 00:44:22:06
Rances
We have family calender.
00:44:22:06 - 00:44:29:08
Jason
Yeah, they have kids and stuff like that. I have you know, is. Did you feed the dog? Yeah, I did. My you know don’t forget to take out the trash
00:44:29:19 - 00:44:43:02
Moises
what I was saying is what I was saying is that you're in constant communication because you guys are like around each other often. Yeah. So, so is Rances and Paola now. More so now because your aunt has worked from home more often. So I just wanted to see if anything changed.
00:44:43:13 - 00:44:48:20
Jason
Yeah. Yeah. So you have a schedule, you have kids. That's so much to keep track of.
00:44:49:15 - 00:45:09:03
Rances
So for me, the calendar is a form of communication. You know, to me, if I send you an invite, I'm communicating this. Like even if we talked about it, now I'm communicating. I'm making it solid. If you accept the invite, you're acknowledging I got it. And there's like, Roger that. If you don't accept it, it's like, maybe you forgot.
00:45:09:03 - 00:45:20:27
Rances
Haven't seen it. If you decline it, then you're saying, no, I'm unavailable, you're setting a boundary. So to me is a form of communication that allows things to remain clear and concise.
00:45:20:27 - 00:45:22:08
Moises
Sure. Yeah.
00:45:22:24 - 00:45:40:24
Jason
That's fair. So I think it's good to end it here. We're about 40, 49 minutes in. Pretty good, guys. We covered everything already recovered. Where to listen to us, and where to find us. Well, that's.
00:45:40:24 - 00:45:43:12
Rances
VidaProject, or Mindset U just search it all up.
00:45:43:28 - 00:45:50:23
Jason
Search it all out. Bye, guys. I'll talk to you guys later.
00:45:50:23 - 00:45:57:05
Rances
Thanks for listening and hope you found this useful, peace!
00:45:57:05 - 00:46:13:18
Jason
Jason here with Mindset U. You and I just want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart for tuning in and watching us every week since Mindset U is Taking a different approach. We need your help coming up with new topics of stuff that you want to hear so that we can give you the best quality possible, the best content possible in general.
00:46:14:03 - 00:46:30:04
Jason
It's fun. Come on, help us out. Help. Help you. Anyway, you can head over to VidaProject.com to watch any of the old episodes, any of the new upcoming episodes are coming. You can also check us out on Instagram and YouTube and anywhere else that you could possibly think of that he wants to be. Let us know. We'll be there.
00:46:30:15 - 00:46:42:18
Jason
All right. Thank you so much. I think we're on Twitter. I don't know. Hit us up everywhere. Call me. Here's my number 201. I'm just kidding.
00:46:42:23 - 00:46:46:26
Jason
I hate being on camera. Fuck you. In the.
00:46:46:26 - 00:47:05:16
Jason
butt I keep saying, guys, fucking trick myself on the streets. I think that's a good take list, you little motherfucker. And I'm going to start over one more time or else I'll put my head in the oven before I was really interrupted by a lovely Dominican lady. And I'm doing everything in my power not to do this window right now because I hate talking in front of a camera.
00:47:05:25 - 00:47:07:01
Jason
Take 15.
00:47:07:18 - 00:47:08:10
Jason
Fuck you.