Spirituality: What magic do you believe in?
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Looking to explore the concept of spirituality beyond religious beliefs? In this podcast episode, Jason, Rances, and Moises delve into their personal experiences and perspectives on spirituality, discussing topics like the connection between spirituality and religion, the role of spirituality in difficult times, and how spirituality can be measured by science.
From Jason's childhood experiences with Catholicism to Rances' view of spirituality as a sense of connectedness beyond a higher power, this conversation is a thought-provoking exploration of the human spirit and its relationship to the world around us. Whether you're a religious person looking to expand your understanding of spirituality or someone interested in exploring the topic from a secular perspective, this podcast is sure to leave you with new insights and perspectives.
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
0:43 - what is Spirituality
4:25 - Morality
7:35 - The Human Search
10:30 - Do we need Spirituality?
15:09 - Have you even lived
17:06 - Everything Everywhere, all at once
20:38 - Risking life awakens your spirit
22:34 - a word against religion
24:21 - Tell us your thoughts https://forms.gle/aqLERqWV4H1BqDB79
Transcript
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Jason
Jason here with Mindset U were all about bringing new things to the table when it comes to this podcast, because we all know what the fuck we're doing. There's no rules in this bitch. Okay? So we're going to talk about whatever you want, whatever we want, because we're going to spin it and let y'all know what we're going to talk about for 15 minutes.
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Jason
I'm going to give you rapid fire stuff. They're the coaches on the everyday guy. I'm going to challenge them because who the fuck are they to tell me what to do? They don't know me. They do know me. Know me for a really long time. But that's not the point. The point is, we're here to give you guys a fun podcast and hopefully you learn some shit along the way.
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Jason
So join us. Hit us up on Instagram, message us on Facebook, send it carrier pigeon, stop us in the street. Let us know what you want to talk about. I'm all for it. Unless I'm doing something illegal. Then don't talk to me. Hey, guys, this is a Jason from Mindset U and the upstairs neighbors vacuuming right now, and we're going to work through it because we're professionals and we're trying to give you the best content possible with the shittiest situations happening to us called personal growth, baby, uh, we spun the wheel life.
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Jason
I spun the wheel of life.
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Moises
You did spin the wheel of life.
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Jason
And our first thing was a spirituality.
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Moises
All right, so 5 minutes. You gotta watch on.
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Jason
You dress up like that. You didn't wear a watch. just what kind of server are you. What do you guys think about spirituality? I personally lost it when I was a child because my grandfather died straight up.
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Rances
What do you mean?
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Jason
I literally just as a kid, I used to go to CCD and catechism all the time. I was like, God’s great. And like, was all about going to church on Sundays. And then my grandpa passed away on the summer of fourth grade, and then I was like, God’s not nice. And I don't like him and I'm done with this shit.
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Jason
And then my mom made me go to CCD and get my community conformation and she kind of forced me.
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Moises
I remember that.
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Jason
Yeah. And then I had to get homeschooled for it because I said Jesus was magic once, and they kicked me out. And then I hear I am now.
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Moises
But it's spirituality the same thing as religion.
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Rances
That's a great point. I think it's.
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Jason
It's part of it.
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Rances
Yeah, definitely part of religion. Yeah, but it can be independent.
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Jason
Yeah. Well, for me, I always connected my spirituality. It wasn't so much like, Oh, I'm not Catholic anymore, but it was like, I don't believe in a higher power.
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Rances
So to, to Moises point about spirituality and religion, like there's that, that point that you talk about that a higher power.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Rances
And then I think there's also the idea of for me in terms of connectedness. Right. Like I don't see spirituality as something that needs to have a storyline of higher power and so on, so forth. Honestly, I see spirituality as it's measurable by science. It's it's just the idea of us being connected and made from the same stuff that makes us.
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Rances
And that's our feeling of feeling like we're we're part of the same thing. We're part of one.
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Moises
I mean, we should just get into it because like, what is spirituality and when when do people use it? Like, we often see it being used when things go to shit. Right. When, when people go through something difficult. But I also think that, like I remember in college, I had this one professor for philosophy where she spoke on how spirituality (just heard the vacuum), how spirituality is used when first, like athletes and when they're actually in the game, is when they feel the most connected, which is like that flow state later on figuring out.
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Moises
So I think of those moments like spirituality as well. Moments in meditation could be spiritual, but you're not necessarily praying towards anything.
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Jason
Or so I have the actual definition of spirituality pulled up real quick. So I think this will actually this goes to our points kind of real quick. So spirituality - its a noun; it's a quality of being concerned with the human spirit or soul as opposed to material, physical things. So I guess you were right in the sense that you're like this spiritually have anything to do with religion.
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Jason
Yeah, and I mean it. I think everything has something to do with something kind of thing, if that makes any sense. So spirituality does have its place in religion and stuff, but for the sake of this conversation, it doesn't have to be. It's not technically about religion, you know, and I think we're all spiritual in our own ways, even if we don't realize it or not.
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Jason
We all have something that we're like, Oh, you know, if you if you follow this path, if you if you if you try to be if you try to be a good person, good things happen, then it's like karma.
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Moises
Karma, is spirituality.
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Jason
You Know, or it's just a matter of, you know, it's like, you know, I make it a point that I might be I might come off as a dick and joke around and stuff like that. But I try to be a nice person to people that I don't know. I try to be nice, as nice, as strange as I possibly can, and not for the simple fact of like, Oh, I'm nice to people.
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Jason
Something nice will happen to me. But it's just like, why not? What? Why not just be the good that you want to see in the world?
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Rances
So what's the difference between morality and spirituality then In that Context?
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Jason
Hmm, that's a good question.
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Moises
But what, what is a moral.
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Rances
hmm
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Rances
So.
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Jason
let’s Look it up together.
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Rances
Yeah. Let’s look it up, because to me, morality makes me I had a class in college which was morality, I think it was called, and the professor would ask these crazy questions. He would be like, you know what happens if you have sex with a Goat and everyone in the class would be like, got so Wrong whats wrong with...
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Moises
Where thats DR’s approach so thats probably normal...
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Rances
What if you enjoy is like it doesn't matter. The poor goat the poor goat. And so people would move the conversation about the goat and then professor goes, what if the goat enjoyed it? And then he's like, Yeah, but it's still wrong because so he, he'll keep pushing the boundary of whatever you define the edge of your boundary of like what is morality?
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Rances
What makes this right or wrong is the edge. And so you make this definition and then question it.
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Jason
So that's that's a good point he made there because morality definition wise, it's principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior, which kind of goes back to a conversation that we had two episodes ago. Where
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Moises
yea we talked about right and wrong
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Jason
About the fact that right and wrong, I mean, like, is there such thing as right and wrong? And there isn't really. It depends on who you ask
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Moises
So you have morals, Rances, since you don't really have right and wrong.
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Rances
So that that's actually what I was going to get to before because you talked about like when I asked a question about morality, about like doing we all think there's I thing I don't necessarily agree with that. Yeah it's like there's, there's a reason behind doing something and so on and so forth.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Rances
I think that we are and it goes into the acceptance of what we are. It's like we are beings that are desperately searching for meaning and purpose and intention and all of that.
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Jason
You know, like some wear our wives clothes
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Rances
what?
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Jason
like some wear our wives clothes and others Dress like normal people.
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Rances
😅
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Moises
I think I just got it.
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Rances
The first time he said it, I was like, his words aren't lining up.
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Moises
No, it took me while cause I was like, Wait, what is jay getting at. Then I’m like oh, Rances where’s his wife’s clothing
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Rances
Okay, so the idea.
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Jason
you can't see his outfit, but it's tight, so tight.
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Rances
So the idea is basically we're desperately searching for meaning. So therefore we're attaching meaning to things that don't necessarily have meaning. And to me, that boils down to a chemical connection in our brain in which we're trying to make sense so that we can make better predictions, so that we can have expectations in the world. And like we're like a simple machine in that sense.
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Rances
We're constantly looking for that meaning in order to have a desire for a purpose. So it's like stepping out of the self for a moment to see that picture and then stepping back in and and realize I am a human being, so therefore I'm looking for purpose. So for me is like, yeah, there's a bunch of times where I'm like, Oh, I'm looking for a purpose behind us.
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Rances
I'm looking for the meaning behind us. And what does that mean? So on and so forth. That's me being in my humanity and that's me being in my spirituality, if you want to call it that. But I also step back and have the the the awareness of like none of it matters.
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Moises
It is in that is in that spirituality in itself to like it and none of it matters. So religion does that in a way where it's like God has a plan for you. All right, so this is happening to you for a reason. Therefore, don't worry about it. Keep moving forward. Mm hmm. So it's.
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Rances
But that in itself is the what I'm talking about is that the looking for a purpose? Is it looking for a purpose?
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Moises
I don't know if it's looking for a purpose. More so than like.
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Jason
It's.
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Rances
More.
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Moises
So of it being trying to make sense of the world. Mm. I don't know. Purpose I would say with meaning I would agree that it helps create meaning, which then helps make sense of the world like we needed. We need a storyline to follow in order to feel that we're moving forward or growing into that where where doing something positive, positive, whatever that means to you in the world.
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Jason
Mm.
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Rances
Yeah, I agree with that. And, and that's like the whole meaning idea is like we're looking for, for we're desperately need a meaning for things. So it's like there's a duality within me when it comes to these situations of like, okay, I am human, so I'm looking for this meaning and then I'm, I'm aware of my need to search for a meaning.
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Rances
So for me, honestly, I feel like it lets me disconnect from things don't go according to plan. So as I can remember and this is all made Up.
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Rances
So then I'm like, okay, then reset. Now let's make pretend and make another meaning. Okay, great. This, this one does good. And we keep moving this way and make the adjustments like that.
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Moises
So spirituality, bullshit.
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Jason
I think everything's bullshit. Nothing really matters, you know? I think we just try to do our best.
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Moises
But not that it matters, but like, do humans need it?
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Jason
I, I think we're.
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Rances
Genetically engineered to, to need it.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Rances
To and it goes back to that point of that connection, like the meaning, the, the purpose of like, why am I doing this? Because like what is when someone is in a suicidal state of depression, right? The opposite side of it.
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Moises
But I feel like. Far from it, brah.
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Jason
That's what you think.
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Rances
You want to share
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Moises
yea, you want to share?
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Jason
I’m constantly on the edge of my head in the oven all the time, just end it just fucking sweet silence can't wait i tell ashley that all the time.
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Rances
So what ignites that thought.
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Jason
Um, probably my lack of spirituality. I don't have anything to hold on to so i’m like Whats the point...
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Moises
But isn't connecting with like your dog's part of. Like it being spiritual.
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Jason
Yeah, but like they’re not going to be here
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Jason
Yeah, but, you know, I. I look at my dogs as an extension of me. I've never felt a love as unconditional, as, like, those dogs. It's, it's as sound. It sounds so white and so weird when I say it out loud. But having Indi for the last 11 years of my life taught me, like, unconditional love.
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Jason
Like, you can let me share my bed. Like, it's okay, but you're like, you're sorry I love you or what? You know, you could fucking bite Ash. And I'm like, which do to fuck with Indi? Like, obviously you did something kind of thing. No, but I think there's been, there's, there's been periods of my life where, you know, I think I use humor a lot, too, to disguise how I feel on the inside.
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Jason
Now, am I ever suicidal? I don't think so. Have I thought about it a few times? Oh, yeah, you know, but I think it's kind of normal. I think. Yeah, you know, I think almost everybody that in one state to another, you really find yourself driving your car and you're like, I could just fucking zoom right into this medium right now and like, what would happen?
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Jason
Mm. You know, it's like that weird thing. Like, what would happen if I just fucking decide to this?
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Moises
But I also think that's part of spirituality.
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Rances
I think so too. I was, I was going to say with that is like for me that that meaning purpose, like for me something that's very important to me is legacy, right? Yeah. And then when I filter it through
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Moises
Narcissist.
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Rances
entirely, when I filter it through entirely, I'm like, it doesn't even matter. Everything's going to be forgotten.
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Rances
We're in a tiny planet. It's just a speck of dust.
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Jason
Try so hard not to find jokes to make about back to connect with your outfit to anything you say right now ok continue.
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Rances
Uh.
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Moises
So then. So then. So then you're understanding essentially what I understand too is like, it always comes back down to death when you think about spirituality.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Moises
So, like, what does life look like without me here? Right. So then you start thinking about all of that, like even to your dog, Indi. What happens if you die? Yeah, like, how does Indy react as he navigates the world now?
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Jason
As long as Ashley's there, as long as there's somebody there to, like, love him and feed him, like, I'm sure he'll think likes where’s Dad you know, for a second, but he's a fucking I, I think we attach emotions to, to the animals and stuff like that to is then.
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Moises
So then can we, can we agree that spirituality is is essentially just just.
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Jason
A coping mechanism for life?
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Moises
Yeah.
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Jason
Yeah, I could yeah, I think I could 110% be like it's a coping.
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Moises
I that's how we cope with with life.
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Rances
Yeah when you were we were saying about like the death thing. That's what I was going through. It's for me. I think about my death every single day. Yeah. Multiple times. Thinking about okay. And again, tying it to that whole legacy thing is like, all right, if I died today, like, what is my legacy look like? Is there an impact?
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Rances
Is there something? So that idea of like, again, trying to find meaning of what all this means and so on and so forth and in our lives. Right. Because it could be it could be pretty scary to just be like and it doesn't mean anything. There's no purpose. I might as well just die now. Right? Like that is the legit thought of many individuals.
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Rances
Yeah. And also something that pushes many individuals to suicide.
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Jason
Yeah. I think one of the things I always like when I start thinking like that, I always think about my parents because I'm like, they're the ones who I mean, I'm sure like, you know, my friends and stuff like that and my loved ones to play. Oh, fuck. You know. Jason, that's really sad. But like the ramifications of what it would do to my parents, it would always like my dad would go back to drinking and like that's I don't ever want to see that.
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Jason
You know, my mom would have a mental breakdown. She would honestly, they would probably send her to a fucking mental institution if i Kill Myself. I think she would absolutely lose her mind. So those are the things that like that kind of stop me from ever like never self-harming. But there's always been like you never going to do that, bud like, that's just not in the cards, you know?
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Jason
So that's, I think, yeah, that's one of the few things that ever stop me from ever do anything like that because I've had serious thoughts about that before when I was younger.
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Moises
Yeah, I didn't know that about you.
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Jason
I don't talk about that stuff with Nobody, you know, it wasn't anything like I was like, Oh, I look at a bridge and i’m like, oh I'm going to jump off that bitch, You know, it was anything like that. But there is there is a few times were i’ll look in the mirror and I don't like I don't like you. You know.
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Moises
Rances I got a question because like, I've struggled with that before to like those thoughts. But like, I don't think nobody ever like I don't even know if you had those thoughts of, like, ending it for yourself. Like, I'm surprised that that Jay had that because I would have never thought that Jay would think that way. Yeah. So then I'm like, that shit that doe Rances ever think that way?
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Rances
I think of it from the, from the side that I expressed, like me dying right now, you know now from the aspect of like I'm going to cause it, but that anything can happen in the moment. So not necessarily in that framework.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Rances
I had had a, had an experience when I was, I was living in New York, so I must have been below nine years old. I was crossing the street and a car almost hit me, a taxicab. And this in this moment, the scenario, I felt like I got a second chance, right? And in my mind, I kid mind at the time I was like, I think I died.
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Rances
One version of me died just now. And now I have another version of me that didn't die. And just like this version of like now a multi what's it called multiverse type of thing. I didn't know what that was, but that, that's the idea that I came with. And then after that I just started seeing things from from that manner.
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Rances
I was like, everything has a divergence. Every experience I go through, there's an opportunity to do this. There's opportunity to do that. And this has this type of impact, this to have this type of impact. And that's basically how how where I latched on to having that idea of legacy because it was like, okay, it's basically like, what is it those games called that first person that you going through a storyline.
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Moises
RPG.
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Jason
Yeah. I was like Tamagotchi
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Rances
oh my God.
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Rances
Where you can you can like pick you good or evil and so on so forth.
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Jason
oh Like fable that game fable, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just remember Hector playing that. Yeah.
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Rances
That's the only way I know.
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Jason
Same, I never played it before.
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Rances
But, like, that idea, like I've always looked at my life since that moment as that way is like, okay, I can, I can choose to do it this way. I can choose to do it that way. To me, that's very chaotic. So I latch on to the idea of, okay, how do I make this decision? Legacy, cool. Legacy is how I make this decision, which one has a greater impact.
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Rances
And that's how I move forward. And then when I had my very close friend Arlene, you guys on the war passed away in 2015 right after my daughter was born to me. That was a big like shocker because it was like, yeah, I know older people who have passed away, but someone, right? Yeah. We were rough, you know, at the time.
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Rances
29. Something along that line.
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Jason
Yeah.
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Rances
And it's like this is not supposed to happen, right. And that they're supposed to idea came in which then had me question my perspective on a lot of things. And for me I went further into like understanding the science behind the emotions I'm feeling and the connections I'm feeling and then looking into like how things are connected, quantum physics and how we have we have a part of basically stars inside of ourselves and how that made it to this planet and is connected to stuff that's not even found in this planet.
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Rances
And like all these ideas of like, oh, okay, this brings me peace about my existence by understanding that connection. So I think, I think that's.
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Moises
That's the the next point I wanted to talk about was how spirituality, the practice of spirituality is very different. So he said, brings peace and I think about you and boxing. Yeah. And how boxing. And that's my question to you. How does boxing bring peace into your life? If it does that.
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Jason
It totally does. And I quit. It's the same thing that made me fall in love with skateboarding, which was like skating in traffic because, like, it's it's dangerous and like, so you have to focus. There's nothing else you can think about. My mind goes blank aside from the task that's on hand, and I think that's why I love so much about boxing, is that it's like, all right, I'm sparring with somebody.
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Jason
I have no time to think about my life. I have no time to think about anything else. It's just here and now I have somebody in front of me who's trying to hit me in the face. How do I avoid that?
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Moises
So being in the present.
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Jason
Being in the present.
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Moises
So it is what prayer does, what meditation does, what any of those.
00;21;29;05 - 00;21;48;16
Jason
Other forms that to me, so like I always joke with people, I'm like, it's my therapy. Like it, I take it real serious now it's I, I'm not in a good mood if I don't get to go to the gym, even if it's just to hit the heavybag or just jump rope, it's just being there. And so I have something to focus on that has nothing to do with work, life.
00;21;48;16 - 00;21;49;17
Jason
It's just my time.
00;21;49;20 - 00;22;07;29
Moises
It's so the practice of spirituality is essentially trying to be president because like I think about people that go to church and people who are like really involved in church, they're like, is the priest or whatever the preacher talking up on the front and they're like singing and whatever. And you feel connected to this thing that brings you in the present moment.
00;22;08;10 - 00;22;21;03
Moises
But then I think about people who aren't religious and you see them connect in some other way. Yeah. Whether it be through a sport, whether it be through like yoga, meditation, whatever, running.
00;22;21;03 - 00;22;32;14
Jason
I think as humans we're all like you said before, we're all searching for some sort of connection, whether it's physical, with somebody with another human being or just with yourself. Like you just need to feel connected to something bigger than you.
00;22;32;26 - 00;22;40;22
Rances
This is also going back into religion like I don't have anything against religion personally. Like I don't think it's it's.
00;22;41;02 - 00;22;41;03
Jason
A.
00;22;41;12 - 00;23;27;04
Rances
Problem in the world and stuff. It's a systematized spirituality. That's the way I see it. And for that aspect of like putting all of these things together and doing community, a place where you can connect and have these, these moments of flow and presence and all of that. My, only, my only challenge would be towards religion. Any type of religion is when the ego becomes present of this can only happen within this realm and it just have I think it happens naturally where that ego takes place because I have this experience here and therefore this means that here is the right place.
00;23;27;04 - 00;23;59;20
Rances
So then the community as a whole starts to reject anything else. That's not this because of their personas, which is the for me, the power of having perspective on all possibilities, right? If someone goes out and experiences something, you know, they go to India, an ashram, and have an experience. They have an experience in a Catholic church. They have an experience in some satanic ritual, all of it
00;23;59;20 - 00;24;19;03
Rances
Like it's like, oh, it's not these things, this this is things that are available within me. And these different practices allow me to access it. I think that is for me, my key understanding of what spirituality is.
00;24;20;02 - 00;24;26;03
Jason
That's a good point from what I can remember about what you just said,
00;24;26;03 - 00;24;27;18
Rances
man, all that weed
00;24;27;18 - 00;24;31;06
Jason
No weed today. No, weed at all, Just pre-workout and no food.
00;24;31;16 - 00;24;35;24
Moises
I dont think it's that weed get. because Sometimes I get lost too. And I don’t smoke weed.
00;24;37;24 - 00;24;56;28
Jason
Talking to you sometimes is like smoking weed, buddy I don't know if you realize that. Oh, once again, don't forget to follow us on YouTube at VidaProject not Mindset U, you won't find us there because that's just how life works. Gotta go. Looking for stuff you know can make it easy for you. we cant do everything for you.
00;24;56;28 - 00;25;15;22
Jason
It's bad enough we're here on Super Bowl Sunday for the sake of this argument. I like football, but like, subscribe to it. Don't forget to comment on our shit, all right? i’m trying to get monitized as I'm trying to quit my job so that this could be my full time job. That could actually be a real producer, not just some fucking makeshift producer.